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Mary Ann Conlin wears a bikini in Seoul to promote body positivity

Article and pictures by Maxine Builder for Bustle

On a Saturday night in Hongdae (the crowded neighborhood of Seoul perhaps best known for its raucous nightlife), English as a Second Language teacher Mary Ann Conlin stripped down to her bikini, placed a blindfold over her eyes, and held two markers in her hands. She stood behind a sign, written in both English and Korean, that asked passersby to draw a heart on her body if they supported self love. Now, this experiment isn't novel: Jae West was the first woman to make this statement about self acceptance in London, England, and soon after, Amy Pence-Brown stripped down in Boise, Idaho. However, it was the first time it was conducted in South Korea, a country with strict standards of beauty, especially when it comes to weight. Having just moved over to Seoul myself, I couldn't miss the chance to attend Conlin's demonstration.

"My experience as a full-bodied woman here in Korea has not been a positive one," Conlin tells me in an interview after the Sept. 19 event. She's lived in Korea for about four years, working as a teacher at different hagwons, or cram schools. "The first work environment that I was a part of, there was a lot of harassment about my weight," she explains. "I would have my manager tell me, 'Oh, you gained weight,' or poke my belly."


Though Conlin was prepared to experience those kinds of negative responses when embarking on this experiment, she received a generally positive reaction, showing that perhaps Korea's traditional views and restrictive beauty standards are starting to come into question.


Conlin had been thinking about body positivity for a while, mainly as part of her own journey to find self love but also through her role with Gather The Women South Korea. However, it wasn't until she saw Pence-Brown's video on Facebook that she felt a concrete call to action around this issue. At first, Conlin thought this experiment would be a great opportunity to "really change people’s thinking about their body image," as well as promote Gather The Women. She soon realized, though, that she needed to do this for herself as much as anyone else. "This event was born out of my need for my own healing and then once I heal, then I feel better. And then once I feel better, then more people are attracted into this space. That’s just natural."

"I’m feeling energized because I’m standing in my own power, showing my body, not feeling ashamed of it," Conlin adds. She went into the evening hoping that her energy would be felt by the other women who passed by her that night, Korean or not, and inspire them in the way that Pence-Brown inspired her.


That energy clearly tapped into something because within a minute of disrobing, a girl with bright blue hair approached Conlin and drew a heart. For most of the hour that she was standing there, Conlin was being written on by a stranger. "I rarely had those markers in my hands tonight!" she excitedly tells me. By the end, her body was covered with the hearts she requested as well as supportive comments in both English and Korean.

At no point did Conlin feel unsafe or harassed either, though she did get the sense that some of the younger men who drew on her may have done it as a dare from friends. However, there were no negative comments or inappropriate actions taken directly at her. If there were passersby with negative opinions of Conlin, her body, or her choice to stand there in a bikini, they kept those thoughts to themselves. "I’m impressed with people," she admits. "At least that restraint is a step up from verbal or physical violence, and then the next step is changing people’s minds."


It seemed that many of the Korean women who signed Conlin's body on Sept. 19 may have already had their minds changed about body positivity. One Korean woman who gave her name as Sarah tells me the ideal Korean woman is "skinny like a chopstick." However, she explains that the "ideal" isn't necessarily right. "Everyone is different, and we need to accept the difference. Korea, we grew up so fast but only the economic part... We need to learn more."

Yoon, a student at a nearby university, echoes the societal pressure to be thin. "Koreans, we are so sensitive about our bodies and being slim... We see [plus-size women] sometimes, but if you have a big body, you try to be slim and diet." She looked over at Conlin and adds, "But she has such a great body." I asked Yoon if she or anyone she knew would strip down to a bikini in the middle of a park, and she was quick to say no. The sight of a partially naked woman in such a public place was still a little shocking to her. "Maybe celebrity, like comedian. But not for us."

Another Korean woman named Soo-jin also felt that Conlin was a bit out of place, but not because of her size. "I think it’s a meaningful campaign," she says. "I think it might have been better if she did it with a Korean because she is, for us, still a foreigner. So we can think that she can do whatever she likes to do. That is a very good message, but she can do it because she’s not Korean."


Conlin was aware of the limitations of her role as a foreigner in Korea and admits that the point of this exercise was as much for her own self love as it was for anyone else's or changing anyone's minds. "That’s all I could do. I have a free space. I can ask people to come and see what I’m doing. You see my body [and] I love myself just the way I am."

She hopes that this expression of self acceptance and confidence, regardless of size, will stick with some of the people with whom she interacted. "All we’re doing is planting seeds," she continues. "But those plants need time to grow." Showing so publicly that it is possible to be plus size and still love yourself provides a meaningful example to women who might not otherwise have any plus size role models, regardless of their nationality.


"I’m perfectly imperfect," Conlin says. Pointing to all of the hearts and scribbles of love and support left by strangers that now covered her collarbone, she adds, "My body is awesome right now. I feel even more beautiful."

What do you think of her experiment? How do you think the responses from onlookers would have differed if she wasn't a white foreigner?
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Date: 2015-09-27 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odd-fish-stick.livejournal.com
Hmmt why did I know she was gonna be white before I clicked

Date: 2015-09-27 11:50 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-09-27 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madielou.livejournal.com
i don't really think she did much because she's a foreigner and she's white...like....maybe for her she felt something?
but like the person in the article commented, she can do this because she's a foreigner/white and it's okay because she's not korean.

Date: 2015-09-27 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spainawards2008.livejournal.com
I just... don't get how this promotes body positivity? Like, it could make her feel better about herself and feel more confident but how is it helping anyone else?

Date: 2015-09-28 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merlugd.livejournal.com
Sometimes first world people, or what ever you want to call them, go to places and say they want to help but all they do is try things that affect their culture. They almost never research on the culture they are trying to "help". I dont think any women who passed by identified with her, from her race to her body shape. She shouldve think about what is body positivity in S. Korea.

Date: 2015-09-28 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] impatiences.livejournal.com
s. korea is a first world country though?

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Date: 2015-09-28 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donutism.livejournal.com
i think its great for her, but def because she is white.

the whole obsession with being thin is always going to be something in asia, and while i think understanding that there is more than one body type and general acceptance for different body shapes might happen eventually, i don't think there will ever be the kind of body positivity movements in asia like there is in the west.

Date: 2015-09-28 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrt131n.livejournal.com
Yeah, this probably would have been a lot more meaningful if it was a Korean woman doing it. Maybe next time.

Date: 2015-09-28 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leopolitan.livejournal.com
eeeep while i am all for body positivity and applaud this woman for her courage i think body image and beauty ideals are extremely culturally ingrained and her message probably wouldnt resonate for her audience like...at all

tbh if she did that here she would probably be openly ridiculed, body positivity is kind of a niche concept even in the west so i wonder if she realizes shes actually benefiting from her whiteness...

Date: 2015-09-28 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madielou.livejournal.com
yeah i've seen a lot of these projects in the u.s go terribly wrong because people just end up writing vulgar things on the woman's body :\\

Date: 2015-09-28 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkmp3.livejournal.com
white saviorism is a helluva drug

Date: 2015-09-28 12:40 am (UTC)

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Date: 2015-09-28 12:38 am (UTC)
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you go lena dunham!!!

Date: 2015-09-28 01:41 am (UTC)

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Date: 2015-09-28 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrypop.livejournal.com
I think she needs to reevaluate this experiment. 1). Even a thin girl in a bikini would get stared at in shock because it's still a conservative culture and people like to cover up and see OTHER people covered up, no matter what their size is. 2). Is it really her place to promote her own self-love in a country with a rather complicated history with body issues? Like what one of the observers said, "She's a foreigner so she gets away with it." The meaning is really lost in the trope that "wow, there's a half-naked foreigner over there." For Korean girls, they have all these other obstacles that stand in the way of self-love. This girl either forgot or ignored those obstacles.

Date: 2015-09-28 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dot-rose.livejournal.com
I understand her purpose and the value of positive body image....
Unfortunately, I don't think this was very effective. I think they just brushed it off as a "foreigner thing".
Hope she doesn't get into trouble at her school for doing something like this.

Date: 2015-09-28 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
man i avoided this thread originally bc i wasn't sure how it was gonna go down but i'm glad i came in :')

Date: 2015-09-28 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueglassbeads.livejournal.com
i want her to write in 100 words or less how this benefits anyone besides her.

Date: 2015-09-28 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 921227.livejournal.com
And she is white, not surprised. I'll pretty much echo most comments -- this does nothing for challenging body image in SK, she is definitely benefiting from white privilege by doing this sort of experiment, and as a teacher I'm appalled that she thought this idea, without research into body culture in SK, would help or benefit anyone

Date: 2015-09-28 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fancy-sheets.livejournal.com
that's an ugly bikini

Date: 2015-09-28 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turielen.livejournal.com
I like the back of the top, but idk about all those criscross marks ruining my very hardly-earned tan. I'm paler than her.
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Date: 2015-09-28 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkmp3.livejournal.com
yes to this entire comment!!!!

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Date: 2015-09-28 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hebk.livejournal.com
no offense but fix america's fat shaming problems before trying to help~ another country

Date: 2015-09-28 03:16 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-09-28 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
she got that eyk 'go to another country and comment on a culture u arent a part of and therefore do not fully understand' syndrome

Date: 2015-09-28 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
also known as she's white

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Date: 2015-09-28 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atopworld.livejournal.com
Oh, white savior. Ah.
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obese = weight only btw in my comment

Date: 2015-09-28 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
I had this argument with a friend the other day and while yes generally obesity is a lifestyle driven thing, it's entirely possible to be obese and not have any of the afflictions that come with it. That changes as you get older but you could be in "normal" or "underweight" range and have the same problems simply bc your body just gets less and less equipped to handle shit as you get older. Imo the way they should've approached this is that rather than looking as weight as a causal factor of health conditions, looked at lifestyle which can lead to weight (which does cause some health problems) as one of the symptoms. it's a very white-centred concept and it actually leads to other races being misdiagnosed or not even diagnosed for what would be obesity related symptoms bc their fucking BMIs are not considered "obese" or they don't have weight gain or it's attributed to something else or what have you.

So to bring this about -- if you want someone to take care of their health, don't focus on their weight because everyone's bodies are different. generally if you live a balanced (in terms of input vs output, not including any genetic factors) lifestyle your body will be at its natural weight. all fat-shaming does is cause emotional distress bc fat isn't a "health" thing for a lot of people, it's an aesthetic thing primarily.

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Date: 2015-09-28 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parkjsun.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how this helps anything but her own self-esteem. A white lady in a bikini out in the middle of Hongdae is highly unlikely to prompt a conversation about Korean body image issues that arise within their homogeneous culture. It's a conversation that should happen within the culture itself.

Date: 2015-09-28 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asth77.livejournal.com
Lol @ doing it in Hongdae
Lol @ Western feminism


Just lol.

Date: 2015-09-28 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyeena.livejournal.com
I'm embarrassed. Like the comments have said, this could MAYBE work in another country and culture but not in the middle of friggin Hongdae. Good for heir for being brave though.

now I wanna know what her school thinks of this...

Date: 2015-09-28 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com
White or not, I doubt that wearing a bikini and letting other people doodle on you, is going to help promote body positivity anywhere in this world! -.-

Date: 2015-09-28 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakuniku-8.livejournal.com
Exactly. I don't see how it can help

Date: 2015-09-28 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-derp-otp.livejournal.com
smh @ her tbqh
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