[Pann] There really aren't any good looking guys these days

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

The post claimed than Korean men are not up to par with the women in terms of appearance and discussed why that may be.



“It’s hard to find handsome Korean guys. If you go to big cities and trending places it’s not that hard but in normal everyday places like school and work, it’s extremely hard.
The appearance driven culture of Korea has only applied to women for a long time and the men have neglected their appearance for a long time.
The women have been raised hearing that they have to look pretty to be loved and the culture is such that it places a large significance on women’s appearance.
The men young or old rudely judge women on their appearance. As a result women resort to investing a lot into their appearance with dieting and plastic surgery to rid themselves of such stress.

Women always have men around them that are at least interested in them making moves but there are a lot of men out there that have never even held a girl’s hand. Many of them have to chase women for the longest time to start even dating.
Men are always interested in all women around him but women only care about the few good looking men. Of course men gravitate towards the hottest women but even those who aren’t have men interested in them.

Men on the other hand don’t attract the attention of women unless they are handsome. That is because on average Korean women look a lot better than the men.
I’ve heard women say that they know men that they would be embarrassed to be seen with but I’ve never heard such things being said the other way around.
If women realize that they aren’t attractive they work on their appearance but men? They don’t even realize that their appearance might be a problem and there are a lot of men that are overweight that don’t even attempt to lose weight.

For some reason, however they think they deserve beautiful women. While in reality the pretty women have no reason to choose these loser men over the handsome men.
Even when they are refused by women they don’t realize that their appearance might be a problem. They keep drinking, smoking and they keep getting fatter and their skin become worse.
This has become a reality in Korea that women have had to lower their standards. Even in entertainment you may see ugly actors playing lead roles but have you ever seen an ugly actress play lead?

Men have to realize that their appearance might not be where they think it is. Go take a look at a mirror and see if you’ve neglected your appearance. Although I’m sure that most men will still think that they are above average...”




[+ 350, – 50] Well they do say 1/3 of the male population in Korea is overweight… and they still judge women on appearance. I wish they would wake up and realize what they are like.

[+ 319, – 54] Objectively speaking when I look at couples walking around outside..the gap in appearance is big. Most of the time the women are a lot prettier than the men. I wish Korea would hand out mirrors to the men to make them realize how ugly they really are.

[+ 207, – 276] The women of Korea need to bow to plastic surgery clinics at least 3 times a day and clean cosmetic shop washrooms for free every week. The saying “Southern men, Norther women” (old saying that the men are handsome in the south and the women beautiful in the north) exist for a reason.

[+ 107, – 7] This is so true I know a really pretty unni and she married an ugly man. I guess he had a complex and after they got married he kept teasing her and calling her a pig. Now the unni’s confidence is so low..

[+ 105, – 0 ] There are a lot of men who neglect their appearance. They all want pretty women even if their appearance is lacking. They rank women based on appearance. I’m not saying don’t look for pretty women, but take care of your appearance if you want pretty women. Men keep saying men are ranked on their wealth and women on their appearance but they criticize women if they rank men based on wealth.

[+ 87, – 134] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ always the ugly women that praise each other and delude themselves ㅋㅋㅋ Oh my unni you’re so pretty~oh no! you’re prettier and when you see them they’re both orcs ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ.




Sometimes you just need to low your standars .... but why always girls have to do it??

Source: Koreaboo via Pann

Comments

[kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com]

I actually just had this conversation with my male friend, he pointed that my teeth are yellow and my skin is not as clear as it used to be and kept encouraging me to fix them and emphasising that if only I have efforts I can definitely fix them up even though I kept stressing that I have other priorities and I am quite satisfied with my appearance.
He then hesitantly told me (because he knew that I would get angry) that I could get better guy if I look better.

The sad fact is, I don't think my friend did that to hurt my self-esteem, he really believes in that and told me that as to get me become a 'better person' (commodity).
He has self-esteem problem (and fucked up mindset) even told me that he is planning to get a trophy wife and he doesn't mind if people call him ugly and point out his physical flaws.
He (and his friends) also take girls as achievement, as getting the prettier girl wanting to date them makes them cooler or better or sth like that.

Obviously I was pissed, am still pissed, and completely disappointed, I swear he wasn't like this before he started hanging out with his 'cool' friends, or maybe I didn't know him well enough.

[kazu-kumaguro.livejournal.com]

Oh, and he said that he would totally date a crazy/obsessive girl if only she is hot. I think he got serious problem.

[cherrypop.livejournal.com]

I'm on the fence with this. Yeah, the standards for women in Korea are over-the-top high and the standards for men... not so much. But then, a lot of people were pointing out the "gap" between Lee Hyori and her husband when they started dating, saying she could have anyone she wanted but why him? Well--cause they're compatible obviously. Focusing on looks alone is just asking for a nightmarish relationship. What guys need to do is they need to stop having such high expectations in the first place.

Not to mention if we're going to talk about the gap between ugly men and pretty women, America would get 1st place. I can't stomach another film where the dudebro, overweight "nerd" gets the hot chick.

[mya13.livejournal.com]

i think the situation would be different if her husband was a famous actor or athlete or something. like i forget which idol dated this rlly ugly athlete and netz kept going on abt how lucky she was and not one comment about how lucky he was. but tbh i think this whole thing is different in real life vs towards celebrities. i think there def are some differences when it comes to celebrities since their fame and what they're famous for is all taken into consideration.

[donutism.livejournal.com]

I think its true tbh. I know so many guys that have this expectation that being a decent person would land them a super model gf, while putting minimal effort into their looks. its like society tells them oh be a decent guy and super hot girls will come your way, while telling women hey change this and this and this, and then you might have a chance at getting a bf

[hibaalhadid.livejournal.com]

also here in my country, the men looking for a pretty girl to marry, and insisting on having the prettiest girl, while if you look at him he's not that good looking.

also looks are not everything, what matters are the personality and manners. looks will change, no body stays the same, so if only about looks, it won't last

it really pisses me off, especially after marriage and having kids, her body/looks change, and he keeps complaining about that, while his looks are worse than hers.

[jrt131n.livejournal.com]

first things first: Title: There really aren't any good looking guys these days.

That bother me a lot for some reason.

[+ 87, – 134] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ always the ugly women that praise each other and delude themselves ㅋㅋㅋ Oh my unni you’re so pretty~oh no! you’re prettier and when you see them they’re both orcs ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ.


I'm guessing you're one of those men that probably need a mirror...

This is something that they even media showcases, the first was an old american tv show called the Honeymooners, The wife, during those times, was really pretty and her husband....not so much, he was loud, heavily overweight and didn't really have much going for him. And it continues with today's tv programming.

There is so much put on women to look a certain way, while most men can walk around looking like a wilderbeast that get beat with an ugly stick thinking they can get any girl they want. Nah bruh, take care of yourself first.

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

i think your title makes more sense ....

[madielou.livejournal.com]

i think this all the time tbh. i'm p sure it stems from the fact that women are more pressured to look good and stick to ideals.

the other day on facebook i saw a "she said yes!" post with a picture of my old classmate and his now fiancee and it was like....wow....she was so beautiful and dolled up....and he looked like he just got back from fishing and didn't take a shower and threw on random clothes that looked church decent.
even walking around campus you're not expected to dress up at all, the typical outfit is sports wear but somehow girls look so fabulous?? how??? (what goes on in sororities i want in on this beauty trick)

[iviih.livejournal.com]

People always tell me to low my standards, but I find it unfair tbh.

I'm not even asking some model god like boyfriend! Just a kind and average looking guy with a nice smile.

But men always judge women for having some standards, while men always have high standards and nobody complains, if they have money it's worse: they think they deserve goddess like model girlfriends/wife.

And to make things worse the average looking guys here think they deserve some "panicat" (search it up and you'll understand) and I'm not one and will never be.

[typhlogirl.livejournal.com]

Never be ashamed of having standards, I'd rather be single than with someone I wasn't happy with tbh

[aeromi.livejournal.com]

it's bc women are basically conditioned to see passed a man's look and go for his "personality" or "his kindness". While women are basically just screwed over if they arent attractive, doesnt matter your talent, personality, or how nice you are

[rennehollic.livejournal.com]

I remember a case of a couple of friends that "shocked" my group of friends.
He has these god like looks. He's tanned, 6pack, blue eyes, looking exactly like a model. He felt for the sweetest girl in the world, but when it comes to looks people said they didn't match at all since she's on the overweight size. People honestly started to crush her confidence saying he was with her just to mess with her, she was so hurt by it she was about to break up with him. People started saying he was sick or that he had a fat fetish, or whatever. They couldn't put in their heads that, maybe, he actually liked her!


2years later, they are getting married hehehehe

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

im single because theres no good looking guy

jk... kinda....

[rennehollic.livejournal.com]

The truth is, when men have high standards no one complains, but when women have them, usually they are called futile and are putting everyone in the "friendzone" because they want more.


I think when it comes to standards both parties end up changing them at some point?
personaly, I've really high standards, not when it comes too looks, but personality wise and I'm really not willing to change them. And I don't think they are impossible, mainly I want a guy who is actually nice, hard working and knows what he wants and he's loyal (but according to some people, I'm asking for a god damn god!)

but physicaly, I think with time standards change? I mean, I remember what I used to like when I was 16. I liked pretty boys, perfect bodys and perfect smiles. Now at 23 I like men with beards, I don't like abs and I don't like pretty boys that much. I like older men than me and if they have a little fat I'm totally fine with it. What I'm really picky is, please lord, have all of your teeth xD

[iviih.livejournal.com]

I get whay you mean, seems like asking to be loyal nowadays is too much!

Here I live, seems like every husband cheats, wifes talk about it as if it is norma, every one of them have some story to tell about it, and when I say I won't accept this and divorce, they say I'm immature and that when I get married I'll understand how to forgive and not break up a marriage over "silly" things. Excuse me?

Now ask the other way around, if the wife cheats, will the husband stay with his wife and forgive?? Will he talk about it as if it is nothing? Will he ever trust her again?

[layna.livejournal.com]

Y'know what? Looks don't matter nearly as much as compatibility because when it comes down to it, our looks change as we get older and quite personally I would rather be with someone who makes me laugh until I almost pee than some chisled model. My husband is a great guy, very supportive and a good dad. Yes he has his issues (don't we all?) just like I have my own but we've been together for almost 14 years, married for 6 years next month and have two little boys. Clearly something works.

[mamamoos.livejournal.com]

this comment <3

[achan123.livejournal.com]

lol
orcs


i think between an average man , and an average woman, the woman always looks nicer

[punkylana.livejournal.com]

this happens in my country as well. you go outside and you see beautiful women everywhere, like 2233232323232 attractive women x 2 attractive men.

in my experience, non-good looking men are the worst! the worst™. i'm telling you they have such high and crazy standards, maybe it's to balance their ugliness but yikes.

[chewyish.livejournal.com]

yeah I totally agree. there's this myth that ugly guys are the nicest have great personalities???? but in my experience ugly guys usually have the shittiest personalities and are really creepy and live off of putting down both guys and girls who god forbid put effort into their appearances bc of their inferiority complexes.

lmao this totally opened up the floodgate for me bc shit ton the guys that go to my university are crusty ass weaboos and they're constantly making it this like ~competition~ like im a programming master!!! and i speak japanese!!! so im so much better than that dude bc he spends so much time on his hair and he dances which is useless and hes going to be working for me in the future u watch!!!!!!

and they act like girls that reject them are uncultured and stupid and they just ~don't understand~ how great they are bc girls are shallow!!1


thinking about this makes me so riled up lol

[v-glace.livejournal.com]

I don't get why it's people's business critisizing whether couples aren't attractive enough for their partners or whatever. Leave them alone, it's none of your business. That said, I wish there were less comments and scrutiny over the appearances of women, and perhaps getting men to pay attention to themselves before they comment would help. It's so hypocritical to judge weight or something when you yourself sit and eat comfortably.

Also just on my personal observation, the guys from Korea I know are all much more meticulous about their appearance, on average, then the guys raised in America that I know. But I know it's not the same as in actual Korea.

[imienazwisko.livejournal.com]

lol i once had this conversation at work... guys (old and gross) were saying what they need in a woman. it was all pretty detailed? from height (noticeably shorter than his), face (no acne, no scars, no freckles, long hair) to body line (small waist, perky butt, nice but not fat thights) and all sorts of things.
once i said i tried to speak from my point of view and share what i want from my partner, no matter what i said i heard i need to lower my standards and i expect too much. ok

not to mention i keep on hearing from men that i don't look feminine enough and they give me tips how to change it. the fuck do they even know what is being feminine like... try speaking to some guy about not being manly enough

[gray-fairy.livejournal.com]

once i said i tried to speak from my point of view and share what i want from my partner, no matter what i said i heard i need to lower my standards and i expect too much
I find that soooo damn annoying. Some of my friends and even my own mother tell me that all the freaking time, that as long the guy is nice and take care of you, looks and other shallow things are not important but at the same time they don't have a problem when they hear some dude saying that a woman has to be tall, skinny, super pretty, with clear skin, nice hair and blah blah. If guys basically want a perfect model, why I have to be okay with a potato that doesn't even bother to dress up decently? Rme.

[gray-fairy.livejournal.com]

Eh, idk. When I was in Korea I saw a lot of handsome guys, at least there was more than in my country. Or maybe it's because they seem to take better care of their appearance/dressing in general unlike lots of men here that have the "only women should be pretty and men who take care of themselves are ~gay~" disgusting mentality.

[kjesta.livejournal.com]

In order to take my last Danish exam I had to switch from the teacher coming to our university (small specialised film school) to attending classes at the actual language school. Since I spoke exclusively English in uni and privately, my spoken Danish was far worse than my reading, which is actually really good, and I was below standard in the class.

After a few weeks we had a class debate about gender roles and such, and this uncombed, unwashed, sloppily dressed mountain of a dude declared that "women that don't put effort into their appearance will never find a man."

I was lacking the vocabulary and expressions to tear him a new one and was seething in so much silent rage that I only went back for class once after that lol.

Seriously though, despite the fact dudes aren't generally after me, I also have a hard time finding dudes up to my standards. Not gonna lower them - either I'll find a sweet guy that's not too deeply mired in racist/sexist/transphobic attitudes and has stuff to say, or I'll just get myself a cute place with ten goats and some rabbits instead. I don't need to make myself unhappy by being with someone I wouldn't want to be friends with.

[carra-mia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, they will never find a man, yeah... The question is if they ever want to find seeing guy like this one.
Bc when they are with the girl and it turns out she got things beauty aside, is talented&achieve stuff and people start to compliment her, appreciate and the focus is on her guy starts to seethe, like how dare she to do one step ahead of me, like I'm the centre of her world, praise only me, hello! And then he goes on kickstarter to gather funds for creating new Stepford or smth lol

[bomsnose.livejournal.com]

It's a bit sad. And I feel lucky once more that I'm in a wee bit more equal society.
In the Netherlands there are just as much good looking guys as girls... But then the good looking guys who really take care of themselves tend to go for nice looking guys. At least there's quite a bit of eye candy.

In Korea while the guys might not look traditionally handsome or fit as girls, but they do seem to take more care in their appearance (clothing) than in Europe or North America.

[mamamoos.livejournal.com]

idek what this post is trying to say, all i'm taking from it is that south korea might really be as appearance-obsessed as is made out?

obviously there's a massive pressure on women everywhere, i'm one who once had issues with my appearance, but this whole thing is just going straight over my head. how other people look doesn't even cross my mind, even in a relationship. i guess i'm surprised to see women caring so much about how men look. it goes without saying the opposite happens and it's gross.

but maybe this post is trying to talk about the issues women face in a twisted way. it's just really self-defeating to give power to the idea that certain appearances even are "ugly" or that this shit matters while trying to beat it down. like... it's a hard topic for many people personally, but when it comes to others it's a different thing. this post just sounds superficial. talk about men's ugly attitudes, not the fact that they're fat. that's not valid.

[kjesta.livejournal.com]

I dunno, to me it's more about the double standard than "so many guys are ugly lol"?

Like, in the anecdote I shared it's not that I think the dude I described as unkempt and fat is inherently undateable or bad for having those physical traits, obviously they're still human beings with intrinsic worth etc. It's bc he's a sexist pig that expects women to adhere to ridiculous standards while being nowhere near conventionally attractive himself. If "ugly" dudes didn't demand unreasonable BS from women, we wouldn't be dragging them.

Obviously, society needs to get to some place where physical appearance is no longer treated as the ultimate expression of how worthy of respect and love they are. One day. Somewhere over the rainbow.

[suxaholic.livejournal.com]

I am not one to promote fighting fire with fire but yes Korean girls spill it.

Not that the rest of the world is not look obsessed but I am actually beyond tired of China's and especially Korea's extreme obsession with good looks. It's literally the only thing they talk about when I am there.

[nefertitii.livejournal.com]

OP the title is a bit confusing? right now its at a double negative which means you are saying: there are a lot of good looking guys!

i think: "right now there arent any good looking guys" or "nowadays there arent any really good looking guys" etc would work better

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

yes, i think changes should show now
thanks again for the warning

i think it makes sense now (?)

[lazmy.livejournal.com]

honestly where i live (midwest usa) i see pretty women of all shapes, sizes and colors EVERYWHERE but ugly men saturate my city (so mean but its the truth im sorry)
i rarely hear women complain about ugly guys either but almost every time im around men they talk about the appearance of women and i want to say 'really....yall look like a 5 collectively and you want a 9.....dreams are hopeless aspirations in hopes of coming true' but i dont bc its so NORMAL to hear men talk like that

[modestgoddess79.livejournal.com]

late but don't go chasing waterfalls

[darkensunrise.livejournal.com]

wow that last comment is so incredibly rude.

this actually reminds me of an old roommate who was considering breaking up with her boyfriend for a number of reasons, one of them being that when they went out, she would doll herself up and look really nice, while he would look like a total slob (it made me mad too!)

sometimes (maybe a lot of the time) I do feel like if I was prettier or made a more solid effort to make myself look better, I could get a guy to notice me. I hate that society has had such a negative effect on the way I feel about myself. I admit that I am somewhat shallow, that I do base a lot on how people look, but if I'm looking for a potential partner I want to be physically attracted to them amongst other things...

guys really need to understand that they won't land themselves a super model girlfriend by only being funny and nice. put some fucking effort into your looks, wash your hair and face and put on some goddamn deodorant! I'm not gonna lower my standards if y'all won't either.

[tsuyoi-hikari.livejournal.com]

I think I have to agree with this one. In my country, girls are mostly much better looking than guys. Like if you go to weddings, you can't like find any unpretty bride. I pointed out this fact to my sis and she also realize that its always been the case..

And OP, is the original article using that pic? WHY?? Poor Ahn Sung-ki. He is very charismatic irl.

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

oh no ... actually koreaboo added the image
original article has no pictures

[burnbook31.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure if its related but my manager at work just said, "my bucket list is to marry a 20 year old when im 50!" The way he said it was soooooo creepy like i found it so morbidly gross i had to step out of the office and refresh my brain. There are female 20 year olds at the office did he not even think twice before saying such uncomfortable things? This dude has a doctorate in management 😐
I hate it when men say problematic things that mostly involved women and excuse it as "its just an ice breaker" like bro wtf let me break the ice using your head 😕

edit: also this same manager has the audacity to tease me almost every time when i have my biases as my wallpaper and call them "what the hell karis, why are you going to do with those girly looking men" ugh for a moment i wanted to strangle him using the electric cord of the office biometrics

[yolleh.livejournal.com]

Sorry you have to work under such a skeezy, self loathing boss bb.