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Talks about lot of troubles. Few days before debut day, she walked down to the police instead going on the stage, on trainee days with the members she sang with a bright smile, but now she had to be in practice room alone while fought back her tears. There was light for her who lived in anxiety every day because all of her hard work could turn into nothing. Now, the dream stage finally just around the corner. Lovelyz’s back to their name with Seo Jisoo as the main character of the story.

Seo Jisoo who get caught up in a “homosexuality and sexual harassment” rumour has walked out. It was critical to girl group member who has to appeal to teen agers especially with pure concept. Seo Jisoo become centre public’s attention when no one hear her actual story. And her absence was fill with “unconfirmed” rumours.



‘The main character of problem’ has return. On 4th, lovelyz’s Seo Jisoo’s comeback teaser was revealed and comeback as a whole 8. In the middle of this month lovelyz will comeback and planning to find fans with the new album. After her debut was hold back, Seo Jisoo is once again stand on the starting point. She is now tying her shoelace and putting strength in her knees.

Spent 1 eventful year, now a whole lovelyz’s stage is just around the corner, Seo Jisoo had a quick meeting with Herald POP. Carefully Seo Jisoo showed up with very complicated expression. The activities is just around the corner, the various emotion such as feeling excitement and joy as well as fear and sorry towards members keep come and go. And Seo Jisoo moved into tears. Drop by drop tears roll down her face, it’s difficult to her feeling and confidence, but after she pour it out she seems relieved and shows a mixed smile.


Seo Jisoo (SJS) and Lovelyz will revealed their story to Herald POP.

Q: How’s your feeling after experiencing difficult time
SJS: It would be a lie if I said it wasn’t hard. But the members are having more difficult time more than I did. Even though we prepared together before the showcase day, I wasn’t able to debut because a bad experience. It was happened so sudden, the members went through harder time than I did. They need to change all the part right away. I felt really sorry because of that. We know everyone is working hard, yet it was more difficult and harder for the members, I felt really bad.

Q: Even after the incident happened, it’s known that Seo Jisoo and the members still living together.
Babysoul: Even now at practice room, Jisoo still the brightest friend. Originally, she was a child that full of energy and always smile, but after that happened she worried a lot of things. Again, even the time has passed but the wound probably will still be there. Yet, she tried to not to show the flaw, I’m proud of her. Rather, when we were tired, she will talked to us brightly and she put her heart in lovelyz. I’m thankful to Jisoo because of that.

Q: Put bright image for the members.
SJS: Because we’re always together, there’s no need to talk to see if we’re all having it difficult. Me of course, because the other members are exhausted and tired from their busy schedules theres no measurement of how ‘tired’ we are. Especially when the members having difficult time, that I haven’t experienced. As everyone’s going through a hard time, revealing it will make the situation even more worse for me or for lovelyz. That’s why I always bright when I see the members as well as cheering for them .

Q: Knowledge fans encouragement
SJS: Many people have sent some cheering words for me. I received lots of letter as well. Honestly, I was felt bad thinking was it okay for me to receive so much love like this. I haven’t been able to show people anything. I think fans and singer get closer as they give and received things from each other’s. But, I still have nothing to give out and I feel sorry for that. Someday, I will give back everything that I have received.

Q: Decision to join, is there any harmony problem with other members?
SJS: Lovelyz has released 2 albums and stands in front of you guys. In that time we wasn’t be stand together and I think I’m a bit left behind . However, it’s time to put more efforts. I have learned to give people my bright side and I will do my best so I can show you the better look of myself.

Q: Please tell us more your feeling about this whole lovelyz activities.
JIN: When Jisoo unnie activities was suspended, I filled her space. When I stepped on the stage for the first time I felt empty, but now the empty space is now filled. I’m so relieved that “real lovelyz” will show you the 8 colour we have. Please make sure that you expect the “Whole Lovelyz”.
Babysoul: I think this is the first time I wanted to have activities so quickly. And be anticipate. I hope you enjoy watching us.
KEI: We have prepared a really pleasant comeback. Now we want to show you what we have. I think activities as 8 people is more fun. Lovelyz name is means to spread the loveliness, lovelyz also want to receive love from everyone.
Mijoo: Lot of people have been waiting for “whole lovelyz”. Jisoo and I have the same age. I feel like my friend is transferred to another school, but now I feel glad that we are preparing for our comeback together. We will show you our “Friend Chemistry” properly, so please show us lots of love.
Sujeong: There are many thing we have prepared since we were trainee for lovelyz debut. Of course acapella cover song, there are also variety charms that yet we haven’t been showed properly. Now, lovelyz would like to show it properly.
Yein: Actually I’m the last one who joined Lovelyz. At the time it was unfortunate that I couldn’t show everyone the side I had. Its about time that I do and thinking of it makes me excited. It seems as though we’ve gone back to the beginning.
JIN: “Real Lovelyz members have their own charms. There are various vocal colours and also difference dance colours. We want to quickly show you the more natural stage than the 7 people stage.
Yoo Jiae: The originally 8 people stage were showed in 7 people stage, fans also sad that it need to be happened. Finally “Complete Lovelyz” is return. I want Lovelyz to have a really cool decorated stage.



Source: Naver

1. [+7,073, -901] So were they really just rumors??? I'm just curious because there was so much detailed evidence... what's the truth???

2. [+5,284, -672] But what kind of life has she lived thus far that there's not one person in the comments who will stand up and defend her ㅠㅠ

3. [+3,843, -784] I know that getting your name out there is important but this is some dirty noise marketing

4. [+3,426, -668] Get popular off of noise marketing, ruin yourself with it too..

5. [+2,892, -1,150] Every all female high schools has a famous lesbian couple and many students these days even read same sex novels so that's a non-issue here... but it is wrong to accuse her of being a lesbian if she isn't

6. [+994, -144] But it's hard for me to pass on the fact that there was so much evidence when she was a trainee before she even got famous... it's just that once the scandal exploded, other rumors sprouted from it that distracted from the original facts..

7. [+789, -105] These articles keep focusing on the fact that the rumors were about her being a lesbian but that's a non-issue... what we want to know was whether the rumors about her sexually harassing others was fact or just rumors..

8. [+764, -121] There's something unsettling about the fact that she doesn't outright deny everything

9. [+874, -248] I like the 7 members without Seo Jisoo just fine. The others have no scandals and are all nice and pretty.

10. [+708, -116] The article said she 'opened up' so I thought she'd touch on the subject of the rumors from her point of view but she didn't... she's not pretty, she's some no name trainee.. so what is the agency thinking by keeping her in the group? The rumors are just too strong to brush off


Source: Nate

1. [+125, -23] Sorry but... who is she...

2. [+78, -5] No comments.

3. [+74, -23] This is probably another case like the 'mom and the two sons' where everyone was scammed by someone acting like the victim. She's an idol to boot so this is going to follow her for the rest of her career, if she can even still promote anymore. We really need to stop believing random claims from the internet with no evidence.

4. [+20, -5] This is on par with the 'mother and two sons' scandal. Some woman from that women's only cafe used the ID Jisoolove and claimed she had two years worth of evidence of Seo Jisoo sexually harassing her. She was of course sued for defamation and spreading false rumors and police did investigate the case for four months and concluded that she did indeed spread the rumors. People who spread it were penalized and hid from the cafe. People still believe the rumors though ㅋㅋㅋ that women's cafe is hopeless



All credit to lovelyz8.net for the translated article, posted word for word.

Source | Herald POP via Naver via lovelyz8.net, netizenbuzz.blogspot.com

Date: 2015-09-05 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
comments on other sites are much more supportive of her and regretful that they believed the rumors right away. people who are claiming noise marketing are just ridiculous and don't actually know what noise marketing even is.

Date: 2015-09-05 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
Thank you! I was wondering why nearly everyone was so negative when the rumors have been claired by the police...
I guess Jisoo is going to be followed by hateful comments anyway, and that international websites will translate those in priority...

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Date: 2015-09-05 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
Noise marketing? Are they serious? Bullshit. This scandal could have made the group explode and will bear consequences for a long time, that's not what noise marketing is about.

I'm happy to read that the company had them staying together despite the scandal! It will make the transition back to 8 much easier than if Jisoo had been gone all that time.
It's going to follow her for a long time, and she sadly can't dodge questions for this round of promotion, I just hope that it will stop after that...

Date: 2015-09-05 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myrrhcat.livejournal.com
i'm pretty disgusted that this is referred to as a "lesbian rumor scandal" and not a "sexual harassment rumor scandal"

Date: 2015-09-05 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staaan.livejournal.com
mfte merrill

as if the lesbian part is anywhere near the worst part of the scandal
Edited Date: 2015-09-05 08:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-09-06 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
Mte, i was about to comment with the same thing

Date: 2015-09-06 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kicking-tenshi.livejournal.com
IA. Honestly had no idea what they were talking about with "lesbian scandal", read "sexual harassment" and the entire debacle came to me immediately

Date: 2015-09-06 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjesta.livejournal.com
this fucking truth

netizen 7 gets it

Date: 2015-09-06 07:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-09-06 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynethia.livejournal.com
The first thoughts I had in my head after I read the title

Date: 2015-09-05 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
"7. [+789, -105] These articles keep focusing on the fact that the rumors were about her being a lesbian but that's a non-issue... what we want to know was whether the rumors about her sexually harassing others was fact or just rumors.."

Exactly my problem with this entire thing.

Also slightly ott but I hope this is a wake-up call for some fans (ifans especially) who romanticize gay/lesbian relationships in kpop.

Date: 2015-09-05 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parkjsun.livejournal.com
http://www.soompi.com/2015/05/08/netizens-who-started-lovelyz-seo-ji-soos-rumor-controversy-charged-with-fines/

The rumours about her sexually harassing others were unsubstantiated. And I believe one of the people who were arrested/charged was a guy pretending to be "a girl who got harassed by Jisoo".

Date: 2015-09-06 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
Re: your last sentence, like that will ever happen lolol

Date: 2015-09-06 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myrrhcat.livejournal.com
what do you mean by your last sentence? ia that some fans take it too far w/ the shipping and whatnot, but a gay relationship is a lot different from alleged gay sexual harassment

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Date: 2015-09-05 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ah-mui.livejournal.com
What surprises me is that Nate, which normally has a lot of negative comments is the one with a rational (true?) explanation.

Date: 2015-09-05 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madielou.livejournal.com
were all the accusations proved to be false, or just some of them?

i didn't follow closely but it seemed like there was an actual case with evidence and then someone else made another claim but it was entirely false? or something like that?

basically is she 100% innocent is what i'm asking

Date: 2015-09-05 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
From this article: http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/16186447.html it says 100% cleared

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Date: 2015-09-05 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parkjsun.livejournal.com
The netizens who started the rumours were charged. The Seoul Western District Prosecutor’s Office and the Ansan Branch of Suwon District Prosecutor’s Office released a statement saying the netizens spread the false rumours for the propose of slandering Jisoo.

Also, there was no case and no evidence. No case was filed against Jisoo and the "evidence" were just pre-debut selcas and edited google image porn photos and face-censored photos of a Japanese porn star.

http://www.soompi.com/2015/05/08/netizens-who-started-lovelyz-seo-ji-soos-rumor-controversy-charged-with-fines/

http://scandaldetective.tumblr.com/tagged/seo-jisoo
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Date: 2015-09-05 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbutterlion.livejournal.com
honestly, even with itl being real or not, solved or not... this scandal has made lovelyz so unlikable/made jisoo seem so shady... i wonder if the group will ever be able to surpass this and just be able to move on with their careers. they're getting hate either way

i like lovelyz a lot though, so it sucks to see this being brought up over and over, i hope the song is good and that they stay strong.

Date: 2015-09-06 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyocinema.livejournal.com
I wouldn't say everything with Jisoo made Lovelyz unlikeable--they're actually pretty well-liked as far as rookie groups go.

But yeah, this definitely is something that will stick with the group.

Date: 2015-09-06 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyocinema.livejournal.com
I remember the post I made a year ago about the whole Jisoo thing.
It was all so freaking crazy that I eventually stepped back and haven't gone near Lovelyz since, like the whole thing kind of ruined them for me.

"10. [+708, -116] The article said she 'opened up' so I thought she'd touch on the subject of the rumors from her point of view but she didn't... she's not pretty, she's some no name trainee.. so what is the agency thinking by keeping her in the group? The rumors are just too strong to brush off"

Yeah... that is kind of weird.
But, it could be that the subject is still too raw for her to talk about it.
If she was innocent, I'm glad that she can go back to the group with little to no issue.

Date: 2015-09-06 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parkjsun.livejournal.com
The subject is pretty raw for any idol to talk about, regardless of recency. The people who started the rumours have already been charged (one of them turned out to be a guy) so the interview already assumes everyone knows she's been cleared and goes forward asking about how she and the other members dealt with it emotionally. What exactly would she say? "Yeah, there was a random netizen that decided to spread rumours about me and a couple others jump on board"?
Edited Date: 2015-09-06 12:38 am (UTC)

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Date: 2015-09-06 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeromi.livejournal.com
honestly, im still skeptical

Date: 2015-09-06 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jesymphony.livejournal.com
Well at this point in time what with the police statements and everything, I think it's more likely than not that Jisoo really was the victim in all this. The receipts are enough for me. Gotta give it up to Woollim for getting behind a no-name trainee too. That's some surprising loyalty for an entertainment label.

As a Lovelyz fan I am worried about how this will impact the group as a whole, but talk about a trial by fire. I doubt there's very little that can be thrown at them now which could faze them. I'll support the girls, all 8 of them.

Date: 2015-09-06 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
The police found the accusations to be bogus, what else do people want at this point?

Date: 2015-09-06 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com
This!

I'm glad that she will be back in the group. She didn't deserve any of this shit!

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Date: 2015-09-06 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 5dogs1cat.livejournal.com
being a lesbian shouldn't be the issue tbh. wasn't she accused of rape? i'm not saying that she was really guilty or anything but netizens talking more about her sexual orientation as if it's the real crime here when she was accused of plenty of illegal things i will never understand #priorities

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