Sunny is just sitting on her chair every time they have down time. ): Other than that the full video is hilarious even though I have no idea what they are saying, lol.
Lol Yuri, attempting to break that fake sky won't get yourself free. They were so entertaining, I hope this will get subbed soon <3 But Sunny... Breaks my heart. She looked so miserable on that stool :(
But seriously, the choreographer wasn't even trying with the formations. wtf that v-formation with hyoyeon off-centre in the back. I get that's it's hard to do formations with even numbers of people but these choreographers are getting paid for this... do better.
Oh I'm glad someone else hates that. It really annoys me that they still attempt the v-formation choreo when it looks so messy with an even number of members. I understand it for their old songs but they should just eliminate it for new ones. It annoys me even more because other groups with even members don't include that at all (at least not in all choreos) and the choreo is clean and cut. :(
They (attempted) to do a V for Apinks Remember, except it's off because there aren't even numbers and no one was hiding and it annoyed the living fuck out of me. I'd much rather have a member hide to make it even (Tiffany, Seo & Hyo ended up with the short stick tho, but I don't understand why you wouldn't just hide sunny who's clearly in pain or NOT a main dancer like hyo lol)
i know this isn't gonna change your mind, but, let me just say: that is extreeemly thin. so even with a little more, it would still be veeery thin.
i don't know what you look like obviously, but i'm sure you're more than fine ♡ and i know it sounds very trite, but i do hope that you believe that being healthy is the most important thing as well :<
i know it's not easy, believe me, i just still wanna say it, cuz i feel like it's not being said enough (i mean, people apparently actually call yuri fat like wtf?) and i feel like these korean/asian beauty standards make many girls worry almost more about their bodies than the western ones ://
I know, when I meant a little more I realized it was too little haha I guess my idea of a perfect body would be what Demi Lovato looks like right now.
True, I always worried about my weight- I've been in and out of diets since I've been 10 years old and I'm almost 23 now so my body is quite the mess cause of the constant loss and gain of weight. But indeed after getting into kpop, it did made me feel more self-conscious about myself.
It's a struggle, I just hope as you suggested, that I find the will and strength to keep myself healthy so I can live longer. Thank you for your kind words ♥♥♥
Oh my God, same. Except I'm 26 now, but I've been suffering from eating disorders for over ten years now :/
And yeah, definitely. K-pop fucked me up lol. This is why I keep mentioning this. Because I know many girls out there aspire to look like them. And I know that many fans don't wanna fall into the trap of "skinny-shaming", but we really need to talk about this. If they're healthy, fine. But I honestly do not believe that. Not when I see their schedules and hear about them getting sick all the time.
I'm not saying Western media is really better and the curvy ideals that are presented there are also incredibly unrealistic... but at least women seem to be allowed to eat? :/
And yes dearie, I do wish you the best~ I hope you can fight this, because I know how much the ups and downs can fuck you and your health up. Stay strong mkay ♥
It really takes a lot of mental strength more than anything for these things. To be able to stay healthy. More so with a full time job and full time school, it's hard to balance it all :/ sometimes I wish there were more hours on a day.
I understand what you mean about western culture. This is why I was surprised when Gain's company actually told her to gain weight instead of doing the whole strict diet companies make idols do in kpop.
Hopefully with time, society can be more acceptable to body types and a healthy lifestyle.
Thank you again and I wish the best for you as well ♥
everybody calls me fat in here, its hard to live in an asian beauty standard, like its really fucked up. sometimes i will bring food at home and i get shit on my food choices so sometimes i just dont eat anymore.
i feel so fucked up, like im too worried about my physical, mental and emotional health (its nice that i am aware of these) with A LOT of things happening to me, i don't want to put the blame on people i've met but so far all of them have caused a LOT of triggers and stress over me that i'm just.... I FEEL that i am not okay again. T____T
even so, ppl see me as a normal working person (go to work - go home) but deep inside i just.. i feel like i'm really losing my shit and i don't know what to do. T_____T
It definitely isn't any better when your own family puts you down as well.. I know sometimes they try to do it to motivate us and all but there's better ways tbh -____-
I wish we could have a quick solution for something like this D: I guess the best way is to just try and try and try again and again to not listen to those negative comments and just eat whatever we want as long as it's balanced and we keep ourselves healthy in overall. Maybe venting can help too! Like you did now, I'm always up to listen to you vent if you ever need it! I know it can help.
They always seem thinner around their comebacks though, and it probably seemed worse to you this time around due to their extended comeback.
I do think they're very thin, but Yoona and Sooyoung has always been lanky and long limbed, it's their body type and they do make (or have made) the effort to put on weight. And just because someone is thin doesn't mean they're unhealthy, what is that statement? With their rehearsals, gym time, concerts, music broadcasts etc they have more than enough exercise to keep in shape.
Maybe I'm just being sensitive. But losing weight naturally could be the effects of growing older, it's what happened to me without exercise. I just need to work on getting toned.
Okay I'm sorry but... I just don't buy into this stuff anymore. It can't be a coincidence that literally all of them are so fucking skinny (except for Yuri and Hyoyeon, who are still thin). The "it's natural" excuse might go for some, but come on. Idk why people feel so personally attacked when I point this out? I'm not blaming them, I'm blaming the system. Sure, Sooyoung has always been thin. But even she lost weight at one point. So did Yoona. And come on, they're always sick or injured or tired or stressed? And the camera adds a lot of weight, too. People are way too protective of the skinny girls, honestly. They all lost some major weight. And I'm pretty sure the reason is exactly what you mentioned: rehearsals, gym time, concerts, etcetc. They can't catch any break! It's too much, really.
It feels like we kind of go around the same basis of things? I pointed out Yoona and Sooyoung because they're the thinnest and because it seemed like you were side eyeing that comment about Yoona putting on weight and looking healthier lately, which she did. As you seem to have noticed too since you said "Yoona lost weight at one point" meaning she gained it back.
It wasn't clear that you were criticising the system/the fact that the girls are stressed etc
I'm sorry if it came off that way, I'm just reeeaaally frustrated about this. And by at one point I meant, she never really gained it all back. And she keeps losing and gaining, but esp losing. Like, in general, she's skinnier than she used to be imo. It's just so absurd to me to even remotely consider this "a healthy look", you know. I just, ugh. I really can't blame the girls, cause I know what this business does to you. But sometimes I feel like the fact that this isn't talked about at all tells girls out there that this is perfectly normal or even something to aspire to- and that's what really worries me :/
i think this was true a year or two ago but they seem more like they're toned now if anything. i think maybe taeyeon and sunny seem to have lost weight in an unhealthy way like they come off as frail. tiffany a while back was like that, same with yoona but now it seems a bit better.
omg have you seen taeyeon's arms in her last ig photo.......... https://instagram.com/p/6efuIKn_jG/ her head is as wide as her hips :|
ya okay compared to the unreleased catch me if you can mv with jessica even yoona looks healthy i'm just REALLY tired of the standards, man i know they all used to look different (except maybe sooyoung) ://
i agree and for a while people were pretty good at calling it out like with yuri and stuff, at this point idk. the only person i think whose weight has been consistent is hyoyeon but she's tiny so it's hard to tell.
it's kind of like after you lose a bunch of weight badly then you gain some of it back. it's unfair esp bc SNSD as the "girly innocent protected by oppa" group had all these standards put on them to the point where they have to look emanciated (talking in the past, less now like they're thin now but that's as a result of before and they're def looking better now aside from the ones i mentioned) and now other groups are rejecting that but it's too late for SNSD to benefit from it.
but i get why you're annoyed like literally every time you point out their bodies in a post there's always someone who comes out with "STOP SKINNY SHAMING!!!!" or w/e w/o acknowledging that most of the time some of them actually look unhealthy and 7-8 out of 9 of them have gone through some sort of extreme diet to get to the weight they're at now.
Oh man, yeah, the Yuri disaster of 2011. Although I do remember thinking... Seohyun doesn't look much bigger, but her body type somehow allowed for it to look "healthier" :/ Yeah, I feel like Hyoyeon is really the only consistent one, too. And I don't think Sunny's weight had changed that much before this comeback, either. But with the Jessica debacle and the injury and all.... ://
Oh my God, yes. I was very into Sistar for a while there and then started looking at SNSD again and... I was SHOCKED. How that could possibly be presented as sexy was beyond me, in comparison. But you get used to it. If you look at nothing all day you tend to see it as normal. And if SNSD suddenly gained weight, there'd be an outcry. And yeah, you're right. Like their general "grown-up sexiness" is still very tame, they still need to stay child-like enough for their oppa fans. Ugh, gross. Let them grow alreadyyyyyyy :((
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Lol it ain't a soshi vid without that high pitched screaming/shrieking. I've only watched the first ep of their show, don't know if I can take more assault to my ears.
They seem like they're really having fun though, I like this practice.
I only watched the dance practice but Sunny looks like she's blocking for most of it. Party was a mistake, they should've just let her rest at that point.
I'm glad they look like they're having fun/enjoying the song though.
I can see Sunny struggling to move her legs here. I hope she's doing better now, this must have been when things were really bad. I'm crossing fingers and toes, hoping that letting or making her do two promotional cycles against medical advice would be too crazy even for SM.
oh no :( I wonder if they would consider postponing You Think promotions if one of her legs literally fell off or if they would tell her to dance through that, too.
same here :( I'm usually all over these dance practice videos, especially when the girls are having fun and fooling around like this, but Sunny in pain/distress makes it really hard and well, painful, to watch. I think it's because most of us know that being under SMent they could be pressuring her to ignore medical advice and all the other shitty things they've been known to do in the past...I'm really worried about her :/
I wonder if one of the reasons why she refuses to take a break is to avoid nepotism specualtions. You know, "she's LSM's niece so she gets favors that other artists within the company don't" and the like.
Some people still think thst she made it into the group becaus eof her family.
Oh yes the same thing has crossed my mind. I notice she always makes sure to mention she trained for six (?) years under a different agency before she came to SM. She told one of those "troubled boys" they were mentoring for that variety show they did 200 years ago that she heard a lot of criticism, that she was fat, that she was short, she was the boss's niece, or something like that. That's one of the few moments I remember from that mostly ridiculous show because it seemed genuine and I empathized with her
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Date: 2015-08-18 04:49 pm (UTC)They were so entertaining, I hope this will get subbed soon <3
But Sunny... Breaks my heart. She looked so miserable on that stool :(
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Date: 2015-08-18 04:56 pm (UTC)sunny absolutely broke my heart :( heal up and get healthy soon, my sunshine.
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Date: 2015-08-18 05:08 pm (UTC)well that spreading legs move didn't look awkward now
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Date: 2015-08-18 05:11 pm (UTC)But seriously, the choreographer wasn't even trying with the formations. wtf that v-formation with hyoyeon off-centre in the back. I get that's it's hard to do formations with even numbers of people but these choreographers are getting paid for this... do better.
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Date: 2015-08-18 05:22 pm (UTC)her glowing skin.... #goals
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Date: 2015-08-18 06:35 pm (UTC)I wish I could be like them, I'm prob 3 times their weight XD
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:12 pm (UTC)congratz tbh
jfc i really wanna yell at korea sometimes
seeing things like this i just
are all fans like 12?
i love soshi but come on, it's progressively getting worse istg
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:17 pm (UTC)than be what I am right now.
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:37 pm (UTC)that is extreeemly thin. so even with a little more, it would still be veeery thin.
i don't know what you look like obviously, but i'm sure you're more than fine ♡ and i know it sounds very trite, but i do hope that you believe that being healthy is the most important thing as well :<
i know it's not easy, believe me, i just still wanna say it, cuz i feel like it's not being said enough (i mean, people apparently actually call yuri fat like wtf?) and i feel like these korean/asian beauty standards make many girls worry almost more about their bodies than the western ones ://
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:59 pm (UTC)True, I always worried about my weight- I've been in and out of diets since I've been 10 years old and I'm almost 23 now so my body is quite the mess cause of the constant loss and gain of weight. But indeed after getting into kpop, it did made me feel more self-conscious about myself.
It's a struggle, I just hope as you suggested, that I find the will and strength to keep myself healthy so I can live longer.
Thank you for your kind words ♥♥♥
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:16 pm (UTC)And yeah, definitely. K-pop fucked me up lol. This is why I keep mentioning this. Because I know many girls out there aspire to look like them. And I know that many fans don't wanna fall into the trap of "skinny-shaming", but we really need to talk about this. If they're healthy, fine. But I honestly do not believe that. Not when I see their schedules and hear about them getting sick all the time.
I'm not saying Western media is really better and the curvy ideals that are presented there are also incredibly unrealistic... but at least women seem to be allowed to eat? :/
And yes dearie, I do wish you the best~ I hope you can fight this, because I know how much the ups and downs can fuck you and your health up. Stay strong mkay ♥
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:43 pm (UTC)I understand what you mean about western culture. This is why I was surprised when Gain's company actually told her to gain weight instead of doing the whole strict diet companies make idols do in kpop.
Hopefully with time, society can be more acceptable to body types and a healthy lifestyle.
Thank you again and I wish the best for you as well ♥
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Date: 2015-08-19 04:09 am (UTC)everybody calls me fat in here, its hard to live in an asian beauty standard, like its really fucked up. sometimes i will bring food at home and i get shit on my food choices so sometimes i just dont eat anymore.
i feel so fucked up, like im too worried about my physical, mental and emotional health (its nice that i am aware of these) with A LOT of things happening to me, i don't want to put the blame on people i've met but so far all of them have caused a LOT of triggers and stress over me that i'm just.... I FEEL that i am not okay again. T____T
even so, ppl see me as a normal working person (go to work - go home) but deep inside i just.. i feel like i'm really losing my shit and i don't know what to do. T_____T
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Date: 2015-08-19 05:10 am (UTC)I wish we could have a quick solution for something like this D: I guess the best way is to just try and try and try again and again to not listen to those negative comments and just eat whatever we want as long as it's balanced and we keep ourselves healthy in overall.
Maybe venting can help too! Like you did now, I'm always up to listen to you vent if you ever need it! I know it can help.
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:28 pm (UTC)I do think they're very thin, but Yoona and Sooyoung has always been lanky and long limbed, it's their body type and they do make (or have made) the effort to put on weight. And just because someone is thin doesn't mean they're unhealthy, what is that statement? With their rehearsals, gym time, concerts, music broadcasts etc they have more than enough exercise to keep in shape.
Maybe I'm just being sensitive. But losing weight naturally could be the effects of growing older, it's what happened to me without exercise. I just need to work on getting toned.
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:43 pm (UTC)The "it's natural" excuse might go for some, but come on. Idk why people feel so personally attacked when I point this out? I'm not blaming them, I'm blaming the system. Sure, Sooyoung has always been thin. But even she lost weight at one point. So did Yoona. And come on, they're always sick or injured or tired or stressed? And the camera adds a lot of weight, too. People are way too protective of the skinny girls, honestly. They all lost some major weight. And I'm pretty sure the reason is exactly what you mentioned: rehearsals, gym time, concerts, etcetc. They can't catch any break!
It's too much, really.
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:57 pm (UTC)It wasn't clear that you were criticising the system/the fact that the girls are stressed etc
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:08 pm (UTC)And by at one point I meant, she never really gained it all back. And she keeps losing and gaining, but esp losing. Like, in general, she's skinnier than she used to be imo. It's just so absurd to me to even remotely consider this "a healthy look", you know.
I just, ugh. I really can't blame the girls, cause I know what this business does to you. But sometimes I feel like the fact that this isn't talked about at all tells girls out there that this is perfectly normal or even something to aspire to- and that's what really worries me :/
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:54 pm (UTC)https://instagram.com/p/6efuIKn_jG/
her head is as wide as her hips :|
ya okay compared to the unreleased catch me if you can mv with jessica even yoona looks healthy
i'm just REALLY tired of the standards, man
i know they all used to look different (except maybe sooyoung)
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:02 pm (UTC)it's kind of like after you lose a bunch of weight badly then you gain some of it back. it's unfair esp bc SNSD as the "girly innocent protected by oppa" group had all these standards put on them to the point where they have to look emanciated (talking in the past, less now like they're thin now but that's as a result of before and they're def looking better now aside from the ones i mentioned) and now other groups are rejecting that but it's too late for SNSD to benefit from it.
but i get why you're annoyed like literally every time you point out their bodies in a post there's always someone who comes out with "STOP SKINNY SHAMING!!!!" or w/e w/o acknowledging that most of the time some of them actually look unhealthy and 7-8 out of 9 of them have gone through some sort of extreme diet to get to the weight they're at now.
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:27 pm (UTC)Yeah, I feel like Hyoyeon is really the only consistent one, too. And I don't think Sunny's weight had changed that much before this comeback, either. But with the Jessica debacle and the injury and all.... ://
Oh my God, yes. I was very into Sistar for a while there and then started looking at SNSD again and... I was SHOCKED. How that could possibly be presented as sexy was beyond me, in comparison. But you get used to it. If you look at nothing all day you tend to see it as normal. And if SNSD suddenly gained weight, there'd be an outcry.
And yeah, you're right. Like their general "grown-up sexiness" is still very tame, they still need to stay child-like enough for their oppa fans. Ugh, gross. Let them grow alreadyyyyyyy :((
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:31 pm (UTC)although i do have a vietnamese friend who swears asians barely gain weight from eating rice.....
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Date: 2015-08-18 09:51 pm (UTC)lol o well. that's what i would think, but then again, diet is an evolutionary thing so i thought hmm maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Date: 2015-08-18 07:34 pm (UTC)I'm new here btw and this is my first comment! Hi, girl hi!!!!
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:04 pm (UTC)welcome! ((:
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:17 pm (UTC)jfc how can they even stand let alone move with those legs
ugh i love sooyoung's short hair more and more every day <3
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:31 pm (UTC)They seem like they're really having fun though, I like this practice.
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Date: 2015-08-18 08:40 pm (UTC)I'm glad they look like they're having fun/enjoying the song though.
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Date: 2015-08-18 10:03 pm (UTC)Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
:(
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Date: 2015-08-19 02:28 am (UTC)the girls are adorable. love seeing them having fun.
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Date: 2015-08-19 05:12 pm (UTC)Some people still think thst she made it into the group becaus eof her family.
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