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While covering Girls’ Generation’s recent lip-syncing controversy, KBS News reported on SM Entertainment‘s penchant for lip-syncing during live performances, featuring EXO in particular.

Girls’ Generation has been recently criticized for their alleged lip-sync performance despite their status as 9th year veterans in the K-pop industry. While covering this issue on its news program, KBS has brought up other artists in SM Entertainment who have also been accused of lip-syncing. They went on to show that SM Entertainment’s artists have a habit of lip-syncing performances despite the disappointment fans have expressed in the past. Among other groups, EXO was featured showing their controversy last year that disappointed many fans.

Originally posted on Pann, EXO-Ls and fans gather to discuss the recent episode of KBS News.


“EXO Who Were Featured on KBS News!!!!!!!!”



Translation: “Group EXO, most of their performances in their concert were ‘lip-synced.'”



Translation: “Out of 31 songs, there were only 7 live stages.”



Translation: “LAR (LIVE AR): even the breathing is recorded so artists don’t have to sing anything”

“I never said it was something to be proud of”


[ +411 / -149] It was when Kris Wu-Yifan pigeon flew away to China a week before the concert. They slept 2 hours a day and practiced 20 hours a day. They even recorded for a week and EXO-M also had to perform stages in China. I think it was successful regarding the fact that they didn’t faint. They started singing live during the concerts in China right after. But I admit it is their fault for not singing live in many concerts in songs such as ‘Call Me Baby,’ ‘Love Me Right’ and other songs. But they have recently been doing performances live. Even the one in Japan recently.

[ +265 / -94] Yes it is their fault for lip syncing back then yes yes. But I hope you guys don’t look at this negatively since they are doing live now :(

[ +233 / -116] Honestly, they couldn’t do anything about it last year… I hope people be quiet if they don’t know; yes it is their fault, lip-syncing during many music programs. I admit that a hundred or a thousand times.. But if you didn’t pay money to go to that, don’t complain.

[ +114 / -81] hahahahaahahahahahahaahhahaahaha I bursted out of laughter hahahaahahahahahahahahha such a disgrace :(

[ +71 / -52] LOL people claim they do live now hahahahahaahahahahahaha crazy conscience-less fans

[ +60 / -52] SM Entertainment makes the K-pop industry’s level go down while being on top at the same time lol


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Date: 2015-08-01 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msgrottesca.livejournal.com
They will find a way to blame literally anything on someone Chinese won't they lmao

Date: 2015-08-01 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeromi.livejournal.com
like they were lip-synching since debut what does this have to do with the chinese members if anything exo-m at least sounded decent when they sang live compared to the exo-k's mess

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuzuruhanyu.livejournal.com
as much as i'm sure his leaving at that critical time affected their stamina etc, why are they acting as if kris had a lot of lines/parts to work around lol + the fact that they pm lipsynched 80% of their performances between 2013-2014 way before kris left and also didn't they spend the majority of tlp lipsynching?

most of sm's concerts are lipsynched so exo shouldn't be blamed mostly for it and exo have spent most of their concerts/promo live this time around so idky kbs is bringing it up now lol

lol forever @ them calling the betraydols pigeons tho almost as funny as calling tao a hairless ostrich

Date: 2015-08-01 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
Lmao, they've been lip syncing since Mama era, is that Kris' fault too?
EXO has improved their lives quite a bit, particularly Kyungsoo and Xiumin.They'll get better the more they do it.
Now SNSD...Party's choreo isn't particularly challengeing so why lip sync?
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Date: 2015-08-01 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
If the North Pole melts right now is it Kris's fault too?
Jesus, everything is his fault
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Date: 2015-08-01 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edanz-castle.livejournal.com
+1. This is why I always look forward to SHINee's Live albums. At least there I know the members actually sing lol.

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natywentz.livejournal.com
"It was when Kris Wu-Yifan pigeon flew away to China a week before the concert"
bla bla bla shut up!

Date: 2015-08-01 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lulufairybubble.livejournal.com

This is kpop, there are groups who have members who are there just bc they are good looking. I give no fucks about anybody singing live.

Date: 2015-08-01 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitthoselightz.livejournal.com
lol mte who gives a fuck

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miuratenshi.livejournal.com
Lol they've been lipsyncing since debut so this is not surprising.

Date: 2015-08-01 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
LOL...they blamed it on Kris for the 2014 tour but what all of 2012, 2013, 2014, and the beginning of 2015?

And do they blame Kris (or Jessica) for SNSD lipsyncing too?

Lee Soo Man said lip syncing is a genre...just accept it
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Date: 2015-08-01 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-rin.livejournal.com
Ah ok, I defended SNSD earlier since I thought it was just a one off but guess not. Bad thing to make a habit of. There's no excuse; especially not intense choreography. There are plenty of other groups who are dancing harder choreos and still singing live. Doesn't reflect very well on such a veteran group in SNSD's case. Also doesn't really motivate them much on stage when some of the members could use some.

Date: 2015-08-01 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayfayren.livejournal.com
i think i remember boa lipsyncing only one and there were articles giving her shit for it, but people defended it by the hard choreo + the fact that she's been in the game so long so everyone knows she can actually sing. but on the other hand, snsd's party choreo isn't intense + every member sings about 10-15 seconds. i miss when they were still performing genie & gee and looked like they were into it.

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeromi.livejournal.com
red velvet sang live most of their debut stages and they sounded really good, like what is exo's excuse?

Date: 2015-08-01 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomsnose.livejournal.com
exo is from exoplanet, while red velvet are earthlings.

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imienazwisko.livejournal.com
i get why idols lipsync during music shows (once or twice, i'm not talking about not singing the whole promo time) but paying for a concert that is almost entierly not sung live? like i can spend that $ on food, thanks.
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Date: 2015-08-01 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arysthaeniru.livejournal.com
Exactly! Music show lipsynching sounds fair to me, especially if the artists want to preserve their voices and not get tired from their insane schedules. But lip-synched concerts are such a waste of money and are downright disappointing. You want the artists to actually be singing for the money you paid to be there :/

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomsnose.livejournal.com
i'm so entertained by the amount of delusion. also one pat on the shoulder for baekhyun. i mean i love d.o. and chen and lay and all, but it's still only baekhyun that's reliable in a live-ish situation.

Date: 2015-08-01 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arysthaeniru.livejournal.com
Yes, his musical experience really helps Baekyhun sound amazing on stage. I hope that with Chen now in a musical, he will also get more reliable in live performances...but we'll see.

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Date: 2015-08-01 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
lol @ that first netizen. how do their brain gears spin to even make this kris' fault?

and lbr it's because of crazy dance routines and the possible lack of sleep that will leave them breathless and tired that performances aren't completely live and not that they lack of talent. i'm not sure about concerts since i don't watch fancams or streams, but don't they sing songs without choreos?
when it comes to performances on music shows i think they'd rather put on a good show than anything. still they can't win either way because then you have people making fun of them when they do actually sing live and mess up, like with the recent sehun wank ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Date: 2015-08-01 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slowitdownbaby.livejournal.com
+1 to all of this.

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Date: 2015-08-01 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnabun11.livejournal.com
Sm has been doing this for years. They will record something that sounds live but it's actually a backtrack and it was so obvious during Mr. Mr. because every adlib sounded the same for every performance
I don't understand why SNSD can't sing live, they've definitely done it in the past and they aren't exo-level bad so...

Date: 2015-08-01 11:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pinkosa.livejournal.com
Ikr! I've noticed it for years, even with DBSK, it's the same thing.

I remember I once commented that you could totally see Taeyeon or Tiffany lip syncing (around Mr Mr era) and everyone told me I was blind and deaf, they weren't BUT I could totally tell that, they sounded the same every single performance.

That goes for DBSK too, and it's freaking obvious because of Changmin, he sounded the same in every performance (Spellbound era, I think...), and that never happens when he's singing live.

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Date: 2015-08-01 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaninasan.livejournal.com
LMAO how are they blaming EXO's lip syncing on Kris? They lip synced everything before he left, and he had like 1 line in each song so i doubt very much they had to put in extra work to prepare for TLP after he left.

Date: 2015-08-01 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slowitdownbaby.livejournal.com
lmao I thought lip-syncing was a common thing in all k-pop groups/artist?
Anyways, I feel like most of the arguments about idols lip-syncing are more about stans wanting to brag about their faves being able to sing live. Meh.

Date: 2015-08-01 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaninasan.livejournal.com
not really, most high profile groups sing live, it's just SM ones that don't (except shinee)

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Date: 2015-08-01 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigmi.livejournal.com
Honestly, I go to pop concerts more to have a good time / be entertained than to be serenaded live, but I can understand how some people are dissatisfied with concerts that are mostly lip-synched.
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Date: 2015-08-01 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
I understand that you have a different opinion, but as for myself, I personally wouldn't pay so much money to see people lipsynch at a concert. When I go to a live concert, I expect live, and that's usually what I get. It's got a different feel than when the artist is just moving their mouth at the right moment while faking pouring their soul in the song. I don't know, my favs usually sound better and more lively live than on the CD. lol When I see people comment that exo performed well on a music show when they lip-synched, it just doesn't make sense to me, because when you perform a song, it usually includes singing, and not just dancing. Otherwise, you're just a dance group, which doesn't require moving your lips anytime. I find it pretty pointless and ill-invested money otherwise. When I see that only seven songs are sung live out of 31, that's not even just insulting and taking people for stupid cash cows, that's a scam.
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Date: 2015-08-01 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimbafierce.livejournal.com
This is kpop people, who following this genre for the idols' breathtaking live performances? I'm all for lipsyncing if it means I get to see great stages, (and call me shallow) goo-looking people on stage.

Date: 2015-08-01 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiograms.livejournal.com
How is all of this Kris' fault?

Date: 2015-08-01 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chenetic.livejournal.com

Considering how sm treat them all like mules, it's a wonder any of them can still sing

Date: 2015-08-01 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlmello.livejournal.com
when you have a big company like sm backing your lipsync...

Date: 2015-08-01 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolylen.livejournal.com
it must be convenient to have chinese traitors to blame all ur fave group problems on. i'm impressed with the first comment.

personally i don't mind idols lipsyncing unless its a group i stan.the more i like the song the more i wanna listen to it live.and it makes me happy seeing my faves doing well.idk its probably bc the first group i ever stanned was tvxq were the live perfs were better than the recorded ver of the song.
but otherwise it rly doesn't make that much difference unless it was rly obvious that they r lipsyncing or u actually paid money to listen to them live.

Date: 2015-08-01 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] algaee.livejournal.com

it's annoying but that's about as much energy as i feel like investing in lipsyncing wank
the blaming everything on the members who escaped is a lot more frustrating tho. i want to shake all those ppl. they want celebs to subject themselves to constant physical and mental duress but never show it too much just so their chosen entertainment stays entertaining while stans can celebrate their multiple virtues of ~dedication ~loyalty ~mettle or whatever. it'd be less absurd if ot# stans weren't always fake crying over their health or something rme. when someone in this shitty industry wants to get out and has the rare chance to, just.. let them live. why is it so hard.. i really dont understand and it's starting to get to me lol sorry for the off tangent

Date: 2015-08-01 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
Lmao, Kris isn't even in the group anymore, but he'll get blamed for exo not singing live even after he left.

7 songs live out of 31 is so fucking ridiculous. Like wow, they really are talking exo-l for cash cows, and the worst is that these fans are fine with being scammed like that.

I don't understand how people can say a lip-synched stage was a "good performance". I mean, if you're an idol group, the singing is still (the major) part of the performance, since... you know... you're performing a song (and not just a dance). Which usually includes singing.
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Date: 2015-08-01 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamamoos.livejournal.com
replying to this comment too hah but exactly like lipsyncing really *takes away* from a performance for me, even more so than a mediocre vocal performance.

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