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In the wake of Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj's "Anaconflict," a new potential issue has been brought to light for the 1989 star.

Outlets like Jezebel, the Daily Mail, the Mirror and Kpopstarz have picked up fan discussion that Swift's "Bad Blood" video, which was released last May and received seven nods for the upcoming 2015 MTV VMAs, is visually very similar to the music video for "Come Back Home," the 2014 single by massive K-pop girl group 2NE1.

One Twitter user put it: "Can we talk about how Taylor's video isn't original and was copied from a group of four women of color, 2NE1" with screenshots comparing both visuals.



As Jezebel's culture editor Julianne Escobedo Shepherd notes, the "Bad Blood" video was directed by South Korea-born Joseph Kahn, who recently spoke to The Korea Times about how he was getting back to his "Korean roots."

As 2NE1 continues to make waves in America (including earning the highest-charting K-pop album ever last year, garnering stateside radio play this year as well as announcing plans for a full-fledged U.S. debut from leader CL), it wouldn't be a stretch to think the director, at some point, saw the K-pop visual with more than 39 million views on YouTube.

"Come Back Home" was directed by new, South Korea-based director Dee Shin. Watch both and decide for yourself:





Sources: Billboard, chaelinfenty's Twitter, 2NE1, TaylorSwiftVEVO

Do u think this is plagiarism or just a coincidence, Omona?
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Date: 2015-07-23 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myrrhcat.livejournal.com
i would compare the two but in order to do that i'd have to watch bad blood

Date: 2015-07-23 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyungmoney.livejournal.com
loooool mte

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Date: 2015-07-23 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevinmchale.livejournal.com
come back bom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway

Date: 2015-07-23 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musuu.livejournal.com
Reachin'.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burqaswag.livejournal.com
I've been saying this since the video was released!

Taylor Comlumbus has finally been exposed!

Date: 2015-07-23 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
Image

PLEASE TELL ME someone is posting this to ONTD. I would but my inbox can't take that abuse

Date: 2015-07-23 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petecarl.livejournal.com
can't you post it and turn off comments?

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obviousgirl.livejournal.com
This shit was already stupid not it's just going above and beyond the call of it.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mya13.livejournal.com
they both suck so who cares

Date: 2015-07-23 03:10 am (UTC)

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
I would not be surprised at all, but I'm not watching bad blood. White women co-opting WoC is nothing new.

These are kind of generic scenes tho imo. I wanna see the ONTD rxns though LOL.

Date: 2015-07-23 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suxaholic.livejournal.com
I can't believe you and others are making the plagiarism accusations into a race and racism issue even though the blood video was directed by a South Korean.

This is why I keep saying so many people are uneducated about racism (it's not just white people) so many people like to throw out popular terms such as poc, woc or Blackface without actually having any proper knowledge on what these terms are supposed to describe and how they are actually used within different academic disciplines.

the terms poc and woc are themselves originally racist

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petecarl.livejournal.com
I haven't seen CBH, and I'm not going to turn off my music to watch it right now, but I thought everyone was saying that Taylor's MV was shot by the same guy who did Britney's Toxic MV, and that's why it was similar to Toxic (but not in a good way). idk, google tells me the guy's Korean, so he's probs seen the 2ne1 video, since he works in that biz. I'll watch 2ne1's mv after my album ends.

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
I've been retweeting people talking about it with the video because free promo heeeyy

Date: 2015-07-23 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] getyouoff.livejournal.com
Does anyone know what the context of a scene means? Plagiarism when it comes to film is completely different from photography. You can not take a still image of a video and compare it to another. You must take the scene into account not STILL IMAGES? Similar shots for MVs are done all of the time. Don't understand what I'm saying? Let me go into more detail. One of the shots that someone called out was of the part with Minzy in the car in Come Back Home and they compared it to Taylor Swift in the car jamming with Kendrick. Is this plagiarism? Not at all. Why? Because the content and the context of the entire scenes were completely different. Therefore they are only similar in the way it was shot (angles and etc etc).

Date: 2015-07-23 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zeysech.livejournal.com
especially when the car scene in Bad Blood was a James Bond reference.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-derp-otp.livejournal.com
I refuse to watch but my husband saw the Taylor Swift video and he says even though the plot is generic its pretty evident they took queues from 2ne1's mv because of the sequence of the scenes.


I refuse to watch tho.

I really like Comeback home mv/song too.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allegsiseu.livejournal.com
but can i use this post to ask where the hell is that CL solo?? i knew it wouldn't be released on time, but damn.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
chillin in the freeah cuz she's undah pressha? idk tbh lol

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agoongprincess.livejournal.com
someone made a really cool gifset of how taylor's mv was sci fi/action movie/tv show match up. daredevil, the fifth element, tron, sucker punch, kingsman, the hunger games, etc.

and 2ne1's come back home was probably the same thing imo. they're similar because they both use the same films for reference.

http://19eightnine.tumblr.com/post/119358386236/bad-blood-movie-references-x

Date: 2015-07-23 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjc48.livejournal.com
I guess Blackjacks didn't get the memo that BB is actually a copy of a Britney video, and everything is kosher because they were both done by the same director and he's just reusing his best tricks.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlmello.livejournal.com
I think the overall result is very different (2ne1 is way better produced. BB has some shitty special effects lol), but there are scenes similar (I think everything similar is in this screencap on the post for what I can remember)
this is going around since bad blood release. the fact that the director is south korean is brand new information for me tho...

I wouldn't call plagiarism.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydiasummer.livejournal.com
what's the conflct b/w Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj?

Date: 2015-07-23 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donutism.livejournal.com
Nicki tweeted about being angry at MTV for not putting anaconda in the video of the year nominations, even tho it broke records and stuff. She then said that if it was about celebrating skinny women, it would have been nominated.

Taylor then responded on twitter saying that its not like nicki to put two women against each other.

Nicki tweeted back like gurl did you read what I wrote I never mentioned you (People think she is talking about miley's wrecking ball, since it was controversial but because it was a white women, it got nominated last year)

And then taylor was like 'if i win ill bring you on stage with meee'

And then nicki started faving a bunch of tweets calling taylor out, and calling how racist the media is, at painting nicki as the angry black women, and taylor as the victim etc

And then like a day later, katy perry called taylor out for talking about putting women against each other when bad blood was a video and song directed at katy perry



why do i know this
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Date: 2015-07-23 03:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeliza
I didn't think BB was even pretending to be original ... it's a whole collection of SF/Action movie cliches. Not going to watch it a second time to refresh my memory, though.

You can see the visual fingerprints of the Matrix and Fifth Element all over both, though CBH actually goes somewhere kind of interesting with it, rather than just amusing.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donutism.livejournal.com
Lol I wouldn't call this concept original

However, free promo for 2ne1.

And I am loving this VMA drama. Bring Taylor down, 2k15 please

Date: 2015-07-23 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leopolitan.livejournal.com
please God let this be the beginning of the media taking down tswift like shes t-ara circa 2012

Date: 2015-07-23 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayfayren.livejournal.com
I actually really loved 1989 (and have plans to see her in August). I've been a fan since her first album while she was still doing country but during this promotion era, she has been so fucking extra. I really don't think she knows the difference between feminism and white feminism. She needs to get one of her many friends to teach her about intersectionality. I love her usually, but she is absolutely in the wrong and needs to own up.

Date: 2015-07-23 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ah0000.livejournal.com
Bc she learned her definition of feminism from Lena Dunham that's why she really has no clue about what feminism really means

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simplyseasalt.livejournal.com
This whole Taylor Swift thing has been really interesting to follow. Just when I thought it was gonna stay a Nicki and Taylor thing, 2NE1 got involved and then Katy Perry...all in such a short span of time.

Date: 2015-07-23 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] v-glace.livejournal.com
I watched Bad Blood once (it was advertised on tumblr as an action mv!! with fierce ladies!!! and then there was no action and I was so disappointed) and I can't remember it being similar to CBH. The shots they picked are all pretty generic concepts. Actually I think I only watched both MVs once.......I don't want to watch either again tbh. I mean, as long as 2NE1 is getting that promo then whatever.

Date: 2015-07-23 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zeysech.livejournal.com
I know right, I was so disappointed when there was no fighting except at the beginning.

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Date: 2015-07-23 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yw7.livejournal.com
Reeeeeeeeach

Date: 2015-07-23 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyungmoney.livejournal.com
smh, first she steals carly slay jepsen's career, then she steals 2ne1's mv, this witch must be stopped
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