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The Girl’s Day members have found themselves on the receiving end of a wave of criticism following their behavior on their recent broadcast on AfreecaTV.

On the show, host Choi Kun proceeds with an interview and facilitates communication with the group via viewers’ comments. Girl’s Day, however, as pointed out by viewers, appears to often ignore Choi Kun, speaking amongst themselves and focusing more on the food that Choi Kun had bought for them. During and after the show, viewers also criticized Hyeri for responding informally to audience comments, as well as pointed out a “dumpling war” (at 33:27) that goes on between member Sojin and Choi Kun.


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Currently, Girl’s Day’s AfreecaTV episode has been deleted and is unavailable to view on the site. However, the video is quickly making its rounds via social networking sites.

Some comments left by viewers include “I feel bad for Choi Kun. He’s stuck in the corner and the show isn’t progressing at all,” “They’re just outright ignoring him..,” “I’m really disappointed in Girl’s Day,” “Why are they acting like that?”

You can watch the show below:





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Article: Girl's Day in controversy over attitude issues on 'Choikoon TV'... 'what happened'?

Source: Top Star News via Nate

Girl's Day guested on a popular internet stream with Choikoon TV and viewers were disgruntled with their attitude on the show for basically not reacting to anything and looking down on the show host and disrespecting him, ignoring questions that he asked and basically being aloof. Sojin was also singled out for behavior when she kept putting down a plate of mandu (caps here) next to the BJ saying the members don't eat mandu and he tried to make a skit out of it which she sighed at. Then she tried to feed him a piece of mandu and sighed/looked put off when her chopsticks touched his lips and promptly got a new pair of chopsticks.

The show's message board blew up and various community boards are filled with posts about it right now.

Some viewer accounts left on the message board:

"There are over 20,000 viewers on the broadcast right now and everyone in the chat is asking what's wrong with their attitude... Sure it may be an internet broadcast but their facial expressions look so rotten and they keep screaming and looking down on Choikoon.. Just an overall disappointment."

"Really disappointed in GIrl's Day today, especially Sojin and Hyeri... why did they bother coming on the show if they're going to be so glum about it? The atmosphere was tense and it was boring to watch. Why does Sojin nag and whine about so much? And I've never seen Hyeri be this lazy."

"Hyeri was so rude to the point where it made me wonder if she treats people differently according to their level. Girl's Day is going to get a lot of hate once people start making gifs of their attitude."

"I think everyone who was watching felt the vibe.. they were clearly looking down on Choikoon."

"F*cking Minah ㅋㅋ Looked at Choikoon like he was some bug and kept getting cocky with her tone when talking to him. And when Choikoon said that they hit daebak this time and asked Minah how old she was, she didn't even reply and made Choikoon ask for her attention again and she was like, 'I was too focused on this pizza'. Then Hyeri tapped her and Minah looked at him like, 'Just search it up yourself'. What is wrong with her? She looks down on him for being some nugu gagman ㅋㅋ Yura was the only one who was active on the show. Minah didn't even bother listening to him and didn't laugh or react to any of the conversations. Just ate her pizza and left."

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1. [+2,639, -114] Only Yura was saved from this broadcast ㅋㅋ She was the only one struggling to give reactions ㅋ The other three were sitting there like "as if we care about some lowly guy" ㅋㅋ Especially Sojin auntie... for someone as mature as her, why would she act like that?

2. [+2,269, -97] Proved to me that this is why you shouldn't trust broadcast image. Everyone knew Seo In Young to be a bitch on TV but she actually turned out to be a soft hearted woman who cries for her fans in real life. And Girl's Day is known for being that cute and sweet idol group but they act like bitches in real life and look down on people for being internet broadcast hosts.

3. [+2,267, -99] They've always been like this, what do you expect

4. [+354, -23] Choikoon TV is more influential than most cable shows, I think Girl's Day went in with a misunderstanding. Ailee and Chaeyeon worked really hard the last time they were on this show and they're seniors.

5. [+334, -10] I seriously wanted to smack them while I was watching because they were acting so bitchy

6. [+297, -6] Minah was daebak... didn't even answer when he asked her age.. Sojin kept saying they didn't eat mandu ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Even Seo In Young and Chaeyeon who are both their seniors worked super hard on this show... Choikoon's also their senior but they look down on him.. it was a struggle to watch.

7. [+283, -7] Hyeri's a mess. She talks back and the tone of her voice is just... this is not the Hyeri I've known.

8. [+230, -5] I heard that Girl's Day fans read the complaints on the message board and couldn't even bear to shield it and called GG ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

9. [+199, -13] Looks like Sojin ajumma is just acting however she wants after showing her private area;;; so wear some spankies! It's embarrassing!

10. [+191, -5] I still find the mandu part so ridiculous ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ She's the one who used her own chopsticks to feed him and then she creates a fuss about his lips touching it. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Why is it okay for her saliva on her chopsticks to touch his lips then? She thinks she's cleaner than him???

11. [+184, -2] I liked Girl's Day but they're all trash aside from Yura after seeing this ㅋㅋㅋ Especially Hyeri and Sojin, totally looked down on him without a care..... Putting him down because they think it's just some lowly internet broadcast.. they wouldn't be acting like this if it was Yoo Jae Suk



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Host of AfreecaTV Choi Kun has responded to controversy related to what has been perceived as Girl’s Day’s rude behavior on a recent broadcast for the show.

After the broadcast aired on July 7, the members of Girl’s Day were criticized by viewers and netizens for appearing to ignore Choi Kun and focusing more on the food that he bought for them than on the show.

On July 8, Choi Kun responded with a statement declaring that the criticism was based on misunderstandings, “There really were no issues on the set yesterday, and we had fun. After the broadcast, there was a lot of responses, and after rewatching it, I realize there were parts that may cause misunderstanding so I am writing to you now.

He attributed the misunderstandings to his attempt to do something different with the broadcast and create a more casual and comfortable environment for the girls.

I wanted to do a bit more internet broadcast-like, casual broadcast yesterday. I wasn’t satisfied when watching our usual broadcasts with girl groups because they were so standardized and formal. There were a lot of responses saying ‘What’s the difference between [AfreecaTV] and a TV broadcast’ so after a lot of contemplation, we decided to go for a more internet broadcast-like, casual broadcast which ended up becoming more realistic,” he said.

He also apologized for not dealing with the misunderstanding there and then as he wasn’t unaware of the criticisms that were being expressed on the show’s live chatroom during the broadcast, “After we went for realism, in my desire to get some laughs, I made up scenarios and [the girls and I] bickered. And while we see the [live] chatroom on set, I couldn’t pick up on certain parts [of viewer criticisms]. I should have dealt with them there and then, but I think I wasn’t seasoned enough to do so.

Afterwards, and as is evident in the photo we took together, I was on good rapport with Girl’s Day. After the broadcast, all the members worried, ‘Were we too casual’ and we even talked on the phone [about it]. I wish there were no big misunderstandings,” Choi Kun continues. “There were parts where things happened differently than my intentions, and since it’s a live broadcast there were parts that didn’t get filtered. The [Girl's Day] girls really made it fun. So I had fun.

He emphasized, “I was never looked down on [during the broadcast] or anything like that. It was really a lot of fun,” and “There were parts that I didn’t expect, and since it was Girl’s Day’s first internet broadcast I wanted to make them comfortable. I hope my sincerity is communicated. I hope there will be no further misunderstandings.”



Article: Choikoon "Girl's Day was going for realism, please don't misunderstand" attitude controversy explanation

Source: TV Report via Nate

1. [+601, -33] Puahahaha ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Why is he the one apologizing?

2. [+582, -40] Yura's the only one who survived... and the other members showed their true colors. You can't deny this if you saw the broadcast. They would have never acted like this on a public broadcast show with those facial expressions and those attitudes. They act according to who they're with.

3. [+533, -33] Choikoon's got such a big heart but why is he the one apologizing when they should be the ones

4. [+59, -4] Farewell Girl's Day

5. [+56, -3] Everyone just got hit by a bomb aside from Yura. Sojin's already got some nasty rumors going around her right now. Their agency must be a mess trying to put out the fire. Either way, they should be prepared for a drop in popularity and even ending up like T-ara...

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Source: Naver

1. [+730, -94] So they were getting comfortable and then obviously got too comfortable to the point where their true colors showed ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ looking aloof for the entire one hour? Such acting geniuses!

2. [+642, -90] Sounds like a clarification that they're just putting out to bury the controversy as fast as possible... I was so uncomfortable watching this

3. [+535, -67] Anyone who's seen the broadcast will know that this was all kinds of wrong. They basically ignored him whenever he asked them questions, which is so off putting. Their true colors showed... Yura was the only normal one.

4. [+417, -38] Sounds like Girl's Day's agency is working with Choikoon to put out the fire as fast as they can but from the perspective of a viewer, it wasn't comfortable to watch...

5. [+383, -36] Even if they clarify this... their attitudes were beyond the point of clarification ㅠㅠ


Source: Soompi +1 insight name no naver & Netizenbuzz nate +1 instiz naver
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Date: 2015-07-08 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byeolbyeol.livejournal.com
hm. everything about this is tricky because a lot of it seems to be linked back to korean culture / customs (especially in regards to the "dumpling war") so it'd be interesting to see someone who is korean give their input on it? because the reaction i've mostly seen by i-fans (especially non-korean i-fans) is that they're "overreacting".

Date: 2015-07-08 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
i don't really get the issue if the host apologized, i don't even understand what he was going for tbh

Date: 2015-07-09 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ah-mui.livejournal.com
The issue is it's not the host that should apologize, it's GsD.

Date: 2015-07-08 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmopudin.livejournal.com
It's the awful hair

Date: 2015-07-09 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkmp3.livejournal.com
and recent comeback

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Date: 2015-07-08 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huanyia.livejournal.com
i don't really know if fans are overreacting or if they were just really energy-less that day.

Date: 2015-07-08 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvikakulubnika.livejournal.com
I'm not going to watch a 50+ min video so I'm not sure about my judgement, but I don't think that GsD would be that dumb to act disrespectful when they know how judgemental k-netz are . So I think that Choi Kuns explanation about it being a less formal/standarzised concept for the show makes sense. Kinda? Or maybe not idk.

Oh wow NB commentors really hate GsD.

Date: 2015-07-08 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missingmisnomer.livejournal.com
If the host himself is trying to explain and netz still don't get it I don't know what more can be done. Anyway, GsD has always attracted a lot of criticism for, well, everything.
Ring My Bell is still my jam!

Date: 2015-07-08 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaetea.livejournal.com
it was rude of them to have done some of the things they did, but i honestly don't think it was THAT rude.
they do deserve some of the criticisms, but the hate is OTT.

Date: 2015-07-08 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwonddochi.livejournal.com
I watched half of it and they were laughing with him and it was all so laid-back.

Maybe they got too casual towards the end, they just ate and talked among themselves(?).

If the host wasn't offended then why would netizens have a problem with it?

Date: 2015-07-08 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuzuruhanyu.livejournal.com
i still need the translations, but judging from their attitude, idg the anger? they actually didn't even seem as exhausted/nhf anything as these comments made them to be, except for sojin (who just seemed shy/awkward imo), hyeri, minah, and yura were all lively and engaging w the host.

Date: 2015-07-08 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] algaee.livejournal.com
i don't think it's a question of their energy level but the constant talking/shouting over and dismissal of the dude who was literally trying to carry the show after the first round of food (like at one point he was trying to get back onscreen to talk abt the broadcast & all they did was ask why he's standing there, who he was talking to, and where the food was?) like.. the rudeness there is kind of undeniable.. idt gsd should be outright hated for this but at the same time the criticism is not undeserved imo

i'm not sure how to take his apology. it reads sincerely and maybe some parts of it are true but it's more than likely an attempt at salvaging image, and in the end he can say he was fine with it but it made a whole lot of other people uncomfortable to witness
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Date: 2015-07-08 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dio-elaclaire.livejournal.com
can all these netizens shut up and die or sth. i'm not in the mood for their shit today.

Date: 2015-07-08 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolylen.livejournal.com
girls day seems to get hate for everything ever since they got popular
the hate for them always felt so extra
its kinda tiring as a fan

Date: 2015-07-08 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
this reminds me of when mino or booby or one of those YG rappers got in shit for using a sensitive word while MCing, but when the PDs said it was their fault everyone rushed to the YG guy's defense and accused everyone else of being born haters

seems like bc it's a girl group they better keep their attitudes in check or w/e

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Date: 2015-07-08 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitthoselightz.livejournal.com
this is so blown out of proportion. the girls acted fine imo and they interacted and laughed with the host so im rme at netizens being like "omg they didnt even talk to him!!!1!!!!".

the mandu part was SCRIPTED and the people behind it/the guy that hosted already explained it was a joke and was meant that way so people can gtfo. apparently the whole broadcast was suppose to show the ~reality~ of kpop groups so thats why it was the way it was

the chopsticks bit- idg how she is showing disgust, if anything it was a ~cute sad~ pout and then they laughed it off so????? besides with things such as mers in korea, im not surprised she did it and i know my own family members that do that so its not that big of a deal to me

nb hates girls day and its quite obvious tbh. their mv article got only one translation which wasnt even a popular article and had barely 200 upvotes. we already know how she contributed to t-aras downfall so lets not do this to another group

also apparently this was filmed AT EFFING NIGHT where they then had to go straight to prerecord music shows

/sorry for the rant, im just pissed at how this is treated and how some people are so shameless with their spewing of hatred

Date: 2015-07-08 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
nb hates girls day and its quite obvious tbh. we already know how she contributed to t-aras downfall so lets not do this to another group

I can’t help but think that girls day and miss A are her newest victims, she seems to get out of her way to post the negative posts only even though there were articles with way more up votes and with a more positive reaction.

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Date: 2015-07-08 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
So they say the girls are rude to the host and try to come to his defense, but then when he himself says there are no problems and he had fun they suddenly don't care about him lmao. If the group themselves apologized like some comments say they should no one would care, everyone would say it was insincere or too late lbr. I'm not interested in watching the full video but it sounds like people just made up their minds and will keep hating no matter how the situation really was.

Date: 2015-07-08 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seroquels.livejournal.com
ehhh, idk. I mean, for Western stds, there was nothing wrong with their behavior (on the parts I watched)...and if the host doesn't feel slighted then ??? But SK cultural norms are different from what I grew up with.
K-nets do seem to judge pretty harshly, but when they're judging things that are culturally specific, it's probably best ifans stay out of it.

Date: 2015-07-08 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winegums.livejournal.com
K-nets do seem to judge pretty harshly, but when they're judging things that are culturally specific, it's probably best ifans stay out of it.

This. I like GsD but there's stuff that is offensive in Korean culture that totally wouldn't be to us, that doesn't mean any Korean/netizen bringing it up is overreacting like some people like to say (like Hyeri's incident with Dongwoon last year)

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Date: 2015-07-08 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
nah i don't think it's really people overreacting, gsd is usually super well liked - and the first flood of criticisms came from sites with more affection towards gsd.

i mean it's just that they were super tired and cranky, but a lot of the audience expressed their discomfort at their attitude onair, it wasn't some group of netizens who were eager to slander gsd. if that were really the case yura wouldn't have been praised as much as she has right now compared to rest of the gsd esp sojin.

plenty of celebs (including aoa) have been on the show and have gotten nothing but praises - you can't always just write it off as some angry netizens being assholes.

Date: 2015-07-08 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belintuchiha.livejournal.com
This.

I just really dislike how people here just jump on netizens without considering the possibility of their nag to be real even for a sec.
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Date: 2015-07-08 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forsureyoudo.livejournal.com
imo they were rude tbh..wtf were they thinking


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Date: 2015-07-08 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misswaldorf.livejournal.com
lol why did you delete the vid.
From the snipped i saw they were definitely got way too comfortable. The host seems a bit flustered by their behavior.
also thats definitely rude of Sojin, I dont really recommend sharing saliva with a stranger but she didnt have to tell it to his face.

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Date: 2015-07-08 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misswaldorf.livejournal.com
hmm...the chopstick part was kind of rude and I don't know if its really happening or the netz are making it up but the part where the host asking Mina how old she is and get told to look it up on the net was definitely rude. I can see why the viewer uncomfortable.
But if the dude said its all good then I guess there is no problem.

Date: 2015-07-08 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leopolitan.livejournal.com
maybe im missing something but since they said this is scripted...this is clearly exaggerated acting for humour? i mean its not particularly funny but i kind of see what theyre going for in that case

then again idg if it was actually scripted, his wording is confusing

Date: 2015-07-08 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
he says that he "made up scenarios" so idk what specifically was scripted but it seems like a lot of the stuff was, otherwise idt he would've brought it up

like i can see why initially people would call them out but if he's saying it's scripted and he's the one who pushed them in that direction/he enjoyed himself then .-.??
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Date: 2015-07-08 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callherblondie.livejournal.com
As a senior in the industry and being the host of his show, it is customary and sort of his duty to apologize for the situation regardless of his real feelings on it.

I watched a few minutes. I did feel like there was some sort of unpleasant tension and awkwardness. IDK...I watched WGM when Yura was on it and I didn't get the best impression of Hyeri and Minah from it (Sojin was ok, I guess). It's hard for me to put my finger on it, though, I guess some of the members just seem a tad bratty and immature -- almost coarse in their manners, but that's not unusual for people in that age bracket or people in the entertainment industry either. Yura has always come across as a sweetheart, though.

Date: 2015-07-08 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
At first I thought this was an overreaction but then I saw a few bits and talked to a korean friend of mine about this and I could see that at some parts they seemed to be very rude, but I don't want to hold it against the girls.

Date: 2015-07-08 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xblackchristmas.livejournal.com
eh that could just be them and its not necessarily rude. it may seem rude because theyre usually cheery and bubbly. tbh i know in korea some of their behaviors are normal whereas to a foreigner it can be rude soooo.. i see Minah's comment indifferently.

and... he's in the corner because theyre all sitting on one damn couch. lol

but i never really liked minah because she started out getting attention already so she couldve developed an ego. id say hyeri mightve too. i grew to like yura from WGM. and sojin, hm. i expected more from sojin.
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Date: 2015-07-08 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staaan.livejournal.com
they did seem a little rude to me tbh

Date: 2015-07-08 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mingobus.livejournal.com
I don't really know that much about Korean culture to judge, but imho I actually thought they were being super rude even if I look at it from a Western perspective.

They were all just ignoring the MC and pigging down on the food while he was trying to make conversation to promote their own damn album. Then Sojin goes and feeds the MC then looks in disgust as his lips touches her chopsticks, like wtf? Why feed someone like that in the first place then?

But honestly, the MC apologizing doesn't actually mean anything because it could just be pressure from the company or he doesn't want to be known as the 'guy GsD was rude to'.

Date: 2015-07-08 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicpineapple.livejournal.com
You summed up my opinion on the matter perfectly. 💚

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Date: 2015-07-08 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
idk if it's cause idk anything about girls day, but i couldn't make it past the 2 min mark of the full video. it was soooo awkward and uncomfortable. i didn't even attempt to watch the "rude" scenes.
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