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Article: The reality behind 'show window idols' as seen through SECRET's discord

Source: Sunday News via Nate

Article talks about how there are a lot of idol groups that are just 'show window idols' or only friends with one another for business sake and their fans.

Aside from SECRET, there are a few blind items like girl group A whose member B's rise in popularity has caused the rest of the members to have no schedules aside from official promotions. B has long since stopped being friends with her groupmates and reps say that their relationship is beyond the point of repair.


One rep said, "As for group A, B will shoot her album jacket picture separately from the rest of the members and photoshop her in. A's promotions are difficult because of that."

As for boy group C, the members seem close in public but they actually rarely contact each other outside of their schedules. They have good relationships with members from other groups in their agency but but struggle with coming together as a group due to personality clashes.

Fortunately for C, just because they're not close doesn't mean there's discord. The members all agree that it's important that they maintain their group. They voluntarily call themselves 'business partners' and recognize that they need each other for business purposes.

C's rep said, "Not all co-workers can be close for simply working together. You're also not going to quit just because you don't have any close co-workers. Idol groups are the same in that even if they're not close, they work towards the same goal and smile for their fans because of that."

Girl group D is similar to C. The members are known for being the intimidating types and suffered rumors where a member was allegedly bullying another member. There hasn't been any problems on the surface however because they're quite professionals.

D's members only meet during the group's official promos. They all have individual activities with solos, acting, and featurings so they don't really even have the time to take care of the other. Because they got so popular individually in a situation where they weren't even close, they don't act like they're close either. When group promos begin, however, they turn 180 degrees and act as close as ever, putting an end to all of the rumors of discord spread between their fans.

Another rep had to say, "It's important that a group synergizes. All of the members play a role in the maintenance of a group. If one leaves, the team breaks apart. Seeing senior teams break apart has made idol groups realize the importance of keeping it all together. Even if there is discord, they usually try to keep it out of the public's eye for the sake of the team."


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1. [+781, -67] Han Sunhwa's actress disease is causing distress to many;

2. [+587, -46] Shinhwa's truly an amazing group!

3. [+477, -31] I don't think Sunhwa's just simply an actress disease. I feel like that's just who she is as a person... circumstances didn't change her. It's just who she is.

4. [+65, -8] A is miss A, C is Super Junior, D is SISTAR

5. [+62, -3] A is totally miss A... C is Super Junior or EXO.. and D's obviously SISTAR

6. [+61, -5] I remember there was an article about how KARA sits separately in the plane and then they come out in promos acting all close to one another. It's all a business facade, guys.

7. [+53, -7] A is miss A, C is Big Bang, D is SISTAR

8. [+47, -18] Look at SNSD. They always talked about being sisters but they gang up as 8 and throw one out. This is why I don't like idols aside from Hani.

9. [+45, -4] EXO's always screaming about 'we are one!' on stage but they're all ready to leave as long as the money's better ㅋㅋㅋㅋ business group indeed

10. [+43, -8] This article reminds me of Sones always bragging about how their group is like a family whenever other groups had discord but then Jessica left ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


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Date: 2015-07-08 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuzuruhanyu.livejournal.com
c can't be exo for obvious reasons lmao

Date: 2015-07-08 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwonddochi.livejournal.com
cackled for real. ita.

Date: 2015-07-08 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wi-arae.livejournal.com
C is Shinee imo? They seem friendly enough but never seen hanging out together; plus they're known for being friends with a lot of labelmates? (especially Taemin?)

I'd actually be happy if it's them, it's a healthy work relationship that will probably guarantee me little scandal and many more jams for the years to come yaaassss

Date: 2015-07-08 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com
Didn't Key say in an interview that Shinee are only co-workers?! That interview was a few years ago, though, maybe the situation changed?

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horichansenpai.livejournal.com
Eh, C's okay (I mean they all are, really). Being friends is nice and helps, but as long as they get work done without any fuss/no one being a shit there's nothing wrong with being just co-workers either.
Edited Date: 2015-07-08 02:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-08 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supersunshiner.livejournal.com
the first one definitely sounds like miss a
and girl group d sounds like t-ara which isn't surprising

Date: 2015-07-08 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supersunshiner.livejournal.com
lmao at knet #8's only favorite idol being hani
he must be so lonely

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aki-san.livejournal.com
C is the only one that's a bit of a question. My initial thought was Shinee, so I was surprised that netizens didn't bring them up, but maybe it's because they have seemed closer recently. Anyway, if I was seeing the same 4-6 people all the time at schedules, would I really want to see them during my free time too? You do you, group C.
Edited Date: 2015-07-08 02:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-08 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byeolbyeol.livejournal.com
imo, the fact that netizens didn't bring them up when they very obviously... could have goes to show. that and how the only people mentioning them are i-fans who're, mostly, not their fan. like it isn't a bad way to go about things, at all, it's professional and is probably gonna keep whatever group it is from disbanding anytime soon but i still don't think it's shinee, shrug.

Date: 2015-07-08 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leopolitan.livejournal.com
they didnt even try to make D subtle smh

ive always known sistar were like that tho which is ok with me its unrealistic to expect them to be bffs. and the fact that they dont pretend to be bffs is endearing to me lmao. as long as they keep it cute for the camera im ok w it, i already lost t-ara to this bullshit

Date: 2015-07-08 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaypukis.livejournal.com
C is from SM for sure.. YG/JYP doesn't have enough others boyband to hang out together..
C is Shinee almost for sure.. they seems so close, but not close enough to hang out together in their private time..

Date: 2015-07-08 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byeolbyeol.livejournal.com
they do hang out together in their private time though. just not constantly because..., you know, they're together 75% of the time already which is understandable.

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psharp10.livejournal.com
i'm probably looking with my bias glasses on but i really don't think bigbang is C, could be super junior though

Date: 2015-07-08 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milafanway.livejournal.com
super junior? LMAO they are always together when they aren't promoting, they promote their familie's business and even their families are close but well yeah I think that people who doesn't follow them might think that

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tungatunga.livejournal.com
Lmao at C, of course every other group in kpop are bff so C are oh so shocking.

Date: 2015-07-08 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byeolbyeol.livejournal.com
tbh, "c" could really be anyone. (even though i don't think it's big bang, suju or shinee.) all groups start out as business ventures. in the long run what matters is whether or not the members are able to develop deeper / more personal relationships out of that. (and that doesn't mean being "best" friends - there's more than one way to care about someone, obv.)

Date: 2015-07-08 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmine-pink.livejournal.com
As for boy group C, the members seem close in public but they actually rarely contact each other outside of their schedules.

Suju? Not all members are equally close but some actually go out of their way to go on holidays together in their free time, LOL.

Actually whoever group C is, their relationship as described here seems pretty healthy to me? They don't have to be extremely close or hang out together all the time, but they don't have discord, they work well together and they are committed to their group with a common goal. Some groups might not even have this.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psharp10.livejournal.com
ia. the relationship described in C is perfectly understandable and what most groups have, i do know that some suju members are close with each other, but i thought they were kind of separated into their own smaller friend groups within the group but idk, i don't follow suju closely enough to know

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubaki874.livejournal.com
I could see D being SISTAR since their bullying rumor is more recent than T-ARA and the girls really don't do much together outside of official stuff.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pineepie.livejournal.com
Sistar's bullying rumour? what had happened?

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gray-fairy.livejournal.com
If this was 2010-12 I'd guess SHINee for C as well, but things have changed a lot and idk why people keep bringing that Key's comment from 2010 or saying that they don't hang out together when there's plenty of fanccounts proving that they indeed do, just not always and not all of them together. They even confirmed it in an interview from 2013-2014 that they usually hang out in groups of 2-3 people in their private time so idk why people seem so fixated in the idea that everytime there's a rumor about a group not being close it's them.

I'm actually suspecting of Infinite because iirc they recently said they've drifted apart.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com
i suspect C is also infinite. and i think they drifted apart since Diss is Infinite, they even mentioned it there. and i think they're never really naturally close to each other, more like they're forced to be together all the time as trainees and at beginning of their career. but there's a point about close with other group members from same company and woollim doesnt have other boy group so...

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyonions.livejournal.com
Why is everyone saying their faves aren't C.. imo, being like that group is not a bad thing? They are professional and I really don't expect groups to be bffs with their co-workers

Date: 2015-07-08 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moondaein.livejournal.com
Agreed! I like my work colleagues enough but I'd rather not spend my time outside of work with them, thank you very much. I have other people in my life too. And I'm only with these people on a 5 days a week, 9-5 (9-9 really but whatevs) basis, imagine what it would be like for idols who have to live together!

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Date: 2015-07-08 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lulufairybubble.livejournal.com

I think it is true for most groups. You are lumped together with a group of people for a job. In the best outcome you get close with one person but that might not happen or you are only close to that person when you are around each other. Kinda like how you have people you are friendly with at work but you dont really talk to them outside the workplace or hang out.

Date: 2015-07-08 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com
if C is BB WHICH MEMBERS FROM OTHER GROUPS FROM SAME COMPANY DO YOU MEAN HERE lol

i get that YG have some (a few? a little number) of other groups but BB don't hang out with them also

I actually was ready to accept that C is Infinite, but there's that point that doesn't fit them also
Edited Date: 2015-07-08 02:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-08 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psharp10.livejournal.com
lmao i was wondering the same thing about bigbang, they all do hang out with different ppl afaik but not from the same company....it's like nuthang and yanggaeng (is he in nuthang?? i don't think so) and soonho for like gd, yb and top (or for top now i guess its more of actors), and jonghun and a bunch of other athletic ppl for seungri -- all those ppl aren't in yg so....

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Date: 2015-07-08 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabulousdoll.livejournal.com
I would say that at first it sound like group A is Miss A. But Jia and Fei do things outside official promotions, but in China. Not sure what Min does because I care less about her (sorry girl haha). Suzy was popular since practically the beginning, so I don't know why the things would change after five years. And this part: As for group A, B will shoot her album jacket picture separately from the rest of the members and photoshop her in. A's promotions are difficult because of that. it doesn't apply to Miss A.
Not sure...

Date: 2015-07-08 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
A doesn't apply to miss A at all, however wrote it clearly wanted people to think it was miss A as the internet public is now sure that Cindy's storyline on producer is Suzy's real life story, but they clearly only paid attention to made up rumors and not the group's reality.

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Date: 2015-07-08 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ababobaby.livejournal.com
been to many shinee posts all proving how close they've become so anyone who's stuck w/ 2010 key would still not get it i suppose

Date: 2015-07-08 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gray-fairy.livejournal.com
lol I think it doesn't matter how many proofs that they're close and hang out in private there are now, people are gonna be forever stuck with that 2010's "co-worker" comment and don't seem to move on.

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Date: 2015-07-08 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
I think C is SHINee and D is obviously Sistar.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carra-mia.livejournal.com
Is everybody so sure that the first group is Miss A that nobody even comment about them lol?
@ whole freinds/not freinds agenda: the pure fact that you're not hanging out with somebody after work does not have to mean you're not friends, it's just can be that your friendship kinda fullfills itself during job hours? Like idols have tons of waiting/travelling, that's a lot of time to do things which friends do together. And you also need you alone time/time with other people/friends or generally just separate time to actually have things to talk about bc if you're all the time with that second person it's suffocaiting and you're pretty much start to hate each other etc.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:28 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-07-08 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velveteenkitten.livejournal.com
I think C is stupid, tbh. Aren't all groups like that at some point in their career. People grow closer and apart all the time, and if you already spend most of your working time together is it not natural to want some time apart too. Like, what?
Do people really believe all members of idol groups are bff's? And even bff's have personality clashes.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gray-fairy.livejournal.com
lol my bff and me have fought and made up plenty of times tbh.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seroquels.livejournal.com
Does it really matter though? Do they have to be friends? And idk about everyone else, but there are times in my life where I'm closer to some friends than I am others, but in a cpl of years it can totally flip flop. The only exception is my bff who no matter what, we're bff/sisters.

As you get older and develop new interests sometimes you stop having things in common, so ofc you spend less time talking/hanging out. IMO Group A is the only one that's a tad distressing bc with that kind of tension you can't really work to the best of your abilities.

Being an idol is still a job - maybe a ~dream job~ for some, but still a job.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyjenkski.livejournal.com
A - Miss A
C - i think their situation is OK. at least there's no need to disband. whoever they are, if they consistently come out with good music, i think its totally OK if they're not real-life BFF's. i actually think C is B2ST (i love B2ST, btw). some are close but not all. they do enjoy each others company as it seem but they have different personalities and interest. they just work well together because they love what they are doing and they love their fans.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carra-mia.livejournal.com
Beast really seems to be on that chill level when they do know that the effect of the whole group together is good/worth to keep and like they job in general, so they continue on bright note, no hard feelings involved so no smell of desperation. Just let's have a good time vibe and I dig it.

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Date: 2015-07-08 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaykaydelight.livejournal.com
Member B sounds like Hani which is sad if it's true. Also lol at people guessing Shinee for C and the stans swooping in here to dispell that old Key quote. How predictable.

Date: 2015-07-08 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gray-fairy.livejournal.com
I don't think "stans" are trying to convince anyone. People are saying that they don't hang out together in private and people who follow them are simply saying that they do and there are proofs of it and the members themselves have said it in recent interviews when they're not the type that fake a friendship for the fans. I don't see how that's anything bad? It's simply stating a fact.

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Date: 2015-07-08 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nrafx.livejournal.com
I mean, I thought Shinee for C because they seem like a group of pretty different personalities who work well together professionally & all of them mostly have their main friends outside of the group. Suju could work too I guess, but idk they don't fit quite as well for me.

If you take out the part about 'relationships with other groups in their agency' it could be so many groups though, it's not a negative thing at all and completely understandable.

I don't know Sistar that well but they were my first guess for D. It almost doesn't even warrant being a blind item lol, who cares honestly.
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