Follow Up: JYP Issues Official Statement Regarding Director Han Sa Min and Dextor Lab

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

After issuing a statement that two production companies suddenly halted production on music videos for 2PM and GOT7, JYP Entertainment gave another official statement regarding one of the two companies.


On May 11, JYP Entertainment released an official statement regarding director Han Sa Min of Dextor Lab, a music video company that gave a notification that the company will not film 2PM's music video, just four days ahead of the scheduled shoot.

The issue with Director Kim Ji Yong of Fantasy Lab was said to have been discussed between the two companies and an agreement was made.

The following is JYP Entertainment′s official statement.

Because the nature of music video productions, involving both the artist and director, is a process that includes tuning the details regarding schedules, wardrobe, choreography, etc, and the overall concept, it′s a standard practice for the contract signing to take place right before or during filming.

Director Han Sa Min′s Dextor Lab began tuning schedules with the company in April and expressed that the first filming date that the company suggested was difficult, so the schedule was adjusted a second time and agreed upon.

Soon after, the company shared everything about the concept, including the song, the costumes, and the choreography, and director Han Sa Min and Dextor Lab attended all the planning meetings with 2PM and staff on April 28 and May 5, together tuning up and coming to an agreement regarding the detailed content of the music video production.

In addition, director Han Sa Min′s side sent a cost estimate sheet that included the costs of the filming set, filming time, cast, and other details that were confirmed from May 8 to the company, and the company as well as 2PM checked the details and prepared for the production.

However, just four days before the music video filming on May 9, Han Sa Min′s side suddenly called, saying, "Due to the relationship with an artist that will be coming out at the same time, it will be difficult for the production to take place," and one-sidedly notified that the production will stop.

Due to the irresponsible actions of director Han Sa Min and Dextor Lab, 2PM, who has been carrying out a schedule that was set with difficulty due to activities in and out of the country, was suddenly placed in a chaotic situation, in which the music video planning, filming, album release date, promotion and marketing plans must all be tuned up again.

Despite all of this, director Han Sa Min′s side is still evading responsibility with irresponsible words, and the company plans on taking strict legal action against the said production company. Thank you.



Posting the screen cap to avoid sending you to an adult dating site...




Mods, I have a paid photobucket account. No issue in regards to bandwidth. At this point, the boys should just take their cellphones or the cameras they use for Real2PM and just shoot their own video... Minjun showed some potential in the last Real2PM video. Or, JYP, here's a suggestion for another director. He's really great. Although, you might have to schedule shooting between naptimes... and must be paid in meat and strawberries.



Source: mwave | OneHallyu

Comments

[torontok.livejournal.com]

I'm studying contract law rn and I do think going by the facts that the director could be liable.There was sufficient consideration in this case and it was pretty clear that intent to make a contract was present. But I study English law, idk if Korea's are based on similar lines

[unbroken-glass.livejournal.com]

omg yes, this week is my contract law revision week so all the lawsuits going on are helping ngl. Do you study in the UK too?

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Hah, my final is on the 27th so I've been in cram mode lol.
No, I'm in Pakistan but we we''re commonwealth nation so we study English law too since many of the principles are based on that and I studied UK A-level law too.
NGL, law has become more entertaining since kpop became rife with them.I spent an entire class debating the JYJ case with my classmates lol.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

I took a law class in college because it was required for my degree. It was always fascinating to me. And now with all the lawsuits coming up left and right in the KEnt industry, it's really interesting. Props to you guys for pursuing that path. I wish I had the brain capacity to do it.

I have to say, it's really fun to watch you guys get into 'lawyer' mode.

[4minutesluts.livejournal.com]

fuck i never really made the logical conclusion that pakistan is a commonwealth nation, even when I know the history of its origin as a modern state

thanks, culturally ingrained racism

[kingpsyborg.livejournal.com]

i think if jype can prove that the director willfully misled them into wasting money that he could be liable? but jype's communications seem all over the place, which may hurt them rather than help them.

[undeniablysarah.livejournal.com]

I agree

[kyokomurasaki.livejournal.com]

it′s a standard practice for the contract signing to take place right before or during filming.

Sounds like a pretty risky way to do business to me, but in this case it does seem like the directors are still liable even though there was no written contract. I'm guessing JYP has the minutes from those meetings or at least some form of communication between the two parties to prove that the offer had been accepted.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

I feel like that's a cultural/industry nuance? I can see wanting to have one final contract with all the terms rather than going back and forth throughout the entire process since concepts and costumes and the like can get change on a daily basis. It saves from people referring to the wrong contract? That's the only reason I can see waiting until the last minute to sign something.

[kyokomurasaki.livejournal.com]

So several of my friends do videography/DP work and stuff (in the U.S.) so I asked them if it's common practice here too, and it seems to be. I'm guessing it's just an industry thing.

[kingpsyborg.livejournal.com]

it's partially because most music video production teams are non-union, and therefore aren't required to have up front contracts, so clients refuse to play ball with it anyway. it's also partially just because people are really impatient with music videos and want them done in insanely short amounts of time, and won't tolerate being locked into a contract with a director who's not going to make it happen overnight. it's to protect the clients more than anything, so that THEY can bail last minute and not be required to compensate the production teams for their wasted time during negotiations or pre-production. some more experienced/high profile directors/studios/teams will have pre-prod contacts that are basically pay or play (do the video and pay the full fee for the video or pay a different fee to get out of it if you bail) but most people will not sign them or do business with directors who want them unless they're the christopher nolan of music videos.

(source: i work in film prod)

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

Thank you for your insight! I totally forgot about the whole union thing.

[kingpsyborg.livejournal.com]

np! i should say that's my knowledge for the us and canada, but if it's similar in korea like han sa min says, then he's right, stuff like this falls through all the time. though i do think he shouldn't have gone into extended negotiations to begin with - no matter what, because he's known for doing yg videos, he'd have come under scrutiny if the 2pm video wasn't "as good" as his other work, you know? so i think both sides are kind of iffy..

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

stop luring me with song triplets gifs idec about JYP male groups omg

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

Sorry I lead you in with false hope of more baby gifs...

That said, is the Shigure in your name the same as Shigure Sohma? Or am I crazy?

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

i don't even remember that guy's name anymore, but yes, if it's that guy from furuba.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

He and Ayame were my faves.

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

they are perfect together haahahaha

[0ddie13.livejournal.com]

What a mess, I hope they somehow comeback on schedule because I was looking forward to BB and 2PM promoting at the same time :(

[audiograms.livejournal.com]

i second 2pm doing a self shot mv, it would be so adorable.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

2PM and their history with 3rd party companies... I would say to bring everything in house, but I get the whole creativity thing... but just think about all the great content they could produce if they had their own content studio.

[audiograms.livejournal.com]

jyp having their own content creators would be awesome, someone pitch this to jyp

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Part of my real life job is being a publisher/content marketer. Pick me, JYP, pick me!

[audiograms.livejournal.com]

srsly tho thhis idea is gold

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

You should see the ideas I have that I want to pitch to them. I get really bored sometimes...

[suxaholic.livejournal.com]

this is confusing. both parties are telling two very different scenarios

[donutism.livejournal.com]

So much he director says nothing has been finalised or signed, and no date agreed to while there is no conflicting schedules and jyp says that there filming schedule finalised and everything. Seeing how they dragged the fantasy lab guy under the bus for no damn reason, I have trouble believing the jyp statements.

[bomsnose.livejournal.com]

this is ridiculous.
i mean jyp's cool and all that. but come on, this back and forth is childish. i don't know the directors that well, so i have no expectations for them, but i did have higher expectations of the jyp pr machine. they haven't started the business yesterday, so they should know they should either swallow these sort of pills, or sue in the background, without pr releases, otherwise their own image suffers with whomever they wanted to call out.
these things happen in the music industry every day, shouldn't spoil the magic for everyone.
edit: whoever is the sufferer, i'm sorry for them. it's just i'm more sorry for the fans.

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

JYP JV PR team fail...this is not what you have a PR battle over...this should be handled in court and not all over the Internet

The director of the 2PM video released a statement like WTF is this so clearly JYP went from 0 to 100 on this AND threw the director for GOT7 under the bus just because he rejected their offer

Also.that statement said they had two meetings, disagreed on filming, and that Han Sa Min sent a cost estimate so he was working for free with no contract...nothing in that screams binding contract to me if the response he got back on Monday, from emails on Friday, wasn't to his liking he could bounce.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

I’m curious. How do think it should have been handled? I would love your take on how it should have gone to avoid drama.


The way I see it, JYPE is going to get dragged regardless. 1) They made a statement {albeit, I will admit hasty on the GOT7 situation, I’ll give you that}. Now people are pissed that they made a statement saying that they should have handled this privately or in the court. 2) They don’t make a statement. They ‘resolve’ it in the court. They still have to find a new director. The comeback gets delayed. People are going to be pissed and start rumors about why they didn’t make a statement when it first happened. It doesn’t matter which way they handled the situation, there will be people who are going to drag them.

In regards to the director for the GOT7 video, they already made a statement that they had already handled the situation. Sure relations are probably frayed, but they dealt with that issue right after that director made the statement.

In regards to the statement in this post, I think you may have gotten the order of events a little out of order. When they first approached the director with the date, he said that date didn’t work, so they went back rearranged schedules and gave a second date. The fact that they moved on to face-to-face meetings, meant that the second date was accepted. Then they gave him all the information in regards to the track: song, concept, costume, etc, etc. Then they had the two meetings between the director, company, and 2PM. After that the DIRECTOR was the one who SENT the cost sheets over to JYPE. That means he had already made the plans for the video. He costed sets, equipment, actors, etc, etc. Him sending that meant that when JYPE responds with the okay, it is considered a binding agreement. Contracts don’t need to be signed in order for it to be binding. People write contracts on back of napkins and shake their hands on it all the time. I’ve worked with those types of contracts, they are the worst, but they are binding agreements.

As for him doing work for free? I highly doubt it. I would’t be surprised if he was paid up front a certain amount for coming in for meetings and planning out the shoot. At least in my experience dealing with production vendors, if they have to come in and plan things out for us, there would be an amount paid up front. There might not be a contract, but JYPE probably got invoiced for all of that. The contract would have been for the filming of the MV.

And the whole thing about media play, do you think JYPE would do this to their highest grossing group? 2PM’s schedule is so tight as it is that they are ending their Japanese activities on May 31st and {were} kicking off their Korean comeback on June 1st. They already had to rearrange their schedule for the second filming date with the director. Now they’re most likely going to have to rework their schedules AGAIN to fit the new filming schedule. I know people think that they are just twiddling their thumbs, but they ARE busy. Most of the boys have solo activities outside of stuff they’re doing for 2PM. Having to rearrange their schedule is going to fuck up a lot of things. Not to mention with this setback, other groups are going to be affected as well. If you think JYPE wants to put their artists through all that for media attention, then okay.

I don’t know if you read the screen cap I posted from OneHallyu. It’s a little long but the poster went through point by point to explain how the director could be held liable. If you haven’t read it, please do. It does a very good job at explaining things.

I agree with you that JYPE aren’t the best at PR and marketing their artists, but I really don’t think they would intentionally fuck with their artists to avoid competition or to gain the public’s sympathy, especially not their highest grossing group.


Obviously most of us here are looking at this from a US, CAN, UK perspective. I understand that Korea’s legal system in terms of contracts may be different. If you know how it works, please let me know. That said, I feel like the basics of contract laws are similar in most places.

[donutism.livejournal.com]

From what I seem to get about the cost sheet, it would most likely just be an estimation of what it is likely to cost to film the MV. We give estimations and budgets to clients all the time to give them an idea of the work we will do for them, the estimated time it takes, and the estimated costs broken down. A proposal in a sense. And once they accept the proposal, THEN we go into talking about the actual contract.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think the element that everyone is stuck on is the cost sheet. I was talking to my lawyer friend who says that them sending it means that it's their offer to do the work and that when JYPE responds saying yes, it's technically a binding agreement even if it's not a formal contract. I've done business with people as a client when I get a proposal from a vendor and I say yes, it's a written agreement and I would already be under the understanding that the work will be done even without a formal contract. It's a very fuzzy concept because different people view the idea of a contract or an agreement differently.

That said, I realize that their situation is different, but I just wanted to reiterate that not all 'contracts' are formalized.

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

Okay you alot but I don't have much to say.

JYP should have handled it behind the scenes and in court and found another director. You can delay the MV or the comeback for a week or two rather than splattering this all over BOTH teams' comebacks. Throwing a temper tantrum and going off half cocked never helped anything and their statements were a mess.

See to me a cost estimate is only an estimate and not a guarantee of work. JYP could make changed or the org could decide their submited estimate wasn't tenable. Granted I'm viewing that from hiring contractors for personal and government work.

It is all rather unprofessional and I wouldn't want to be a third party working with JYP after this debacle

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

I get your upset that GOT7’s name got dragged into this. That said, reading your response, I wonder if you actually read the entire statement or if you just skimmed, then picked and chose the points that would prove your point that JYPE sucks.

If you think that after releasing a comeback date, pushing it back a few weeks is going to be a-okay with fans who were planning to do things for the comeback, or that quiet lawsuits exist in the Korean entertainment industry, especially from one of the more well known companies, you really have more faith in human kind than I do.

The reason we’re even talking about the cost sheet was to determine whether or not JYP has grounds to sue. And if you read the statement you would've seen the part where they said that after they got the sheet, the company and 2PM reviewed it and started preparing for production, which implies that the costs outlined were accepted and an agreement in place.

You say that JYPE is unprofessional for releasing a statement. But you think it's totally cool that a director pulled out of a project, after being part of the planning process and sending the cost sheet because his friends is having a come back at the same time is completely professional? Really?

I agree on one thing with you, I don't want JYPE to work with 3rd party companies either, because this isn't the first time they got screwed. I think they should have their own content/production studio.

I realize that this conversation isn’t going to go anywhere. That said, thanks for your insight.

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

You know the level of assumption and condescension in your writing is a bit annoying.

I'm not invested this nor do I overly care so the convo is indeed over. Good day

[dysphoriia.livejournal.com]

i wonder if this will backfire on jyp? like other directors not wanting to work with them in the future. cause the first press release left a bad taste in my mouth. dragging a guy who did nothing wrong and there was no apology after naming and shaming him? han sa min looks like he'll be in trouble though.

i hope someone at jyp is still trying to fix this mv mess and not just using their resource on this bs.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

They made a statement about the GOT7 director already that they had resolved the situation. I agree that that situation with that particular director was done badly.

I hope so, too. I can't imagine how messed up 2PM's schedule is now.

[iznanassi.livejournal.com]

Studied contract law a bit last year and that's exactly what I thought. Contract doesn't necessarily mean signed and if they were moving forward with plans under the intention to sign despite the director having this prior knowledge that he wouldn't be able to work with them, imo he's liable but there's a def possibility a court could still find him liable. I'm Canadian btw. The director's statement basically said everything JYP's is saying, just in a twisted way to make it seem as if nothing had been moving forward.

But yeah this is a mess and kudos to JYP for responding to the situation promptly.

[atopworld.livejournal.com]

Yeah....do this in private. I don't think it should be continued in the public past a statement from each side. Especially since it could hurt both parties.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

I agree. But I also saw why they needed to make a statement,  however flawed it was, initially.

I just don't want this to be a 2PM v the other artist or JYPE very the other artist's company situation. This is a JYPE v Dextor situation and it should be kept that way.

[sundaetea.livejournal.com]

I honestly hope JYP wins the lawsuit.