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Following JYP Entertainment’s official statement regarding the delay of their agency artists’ – 2PM’s and GOT7’s – music videos and comebacks, the two directors mentioned in the statement spoke to media explaining their side of the story.

Previously, according to JYP Entertainment, the directors were “irresponsible” in one-sidedly backing out of the music video shoots shortly before filming was supposed to begin. JYP further announced that they would be taking legal action for damages incurred.

However, director Kim Ji Yong stated to OSEN that because the video concept didn’t match his style, he humbly declined the offer the day after he received the call.

“I had received an offer from JYP to shoot GOT7’s music video. We spoke over the phone regarding the filming schedule, and I received the music video plan the next day via email,” said Kim Ji Yong. “However, after receiving the file on the music video, it was completely different than what I had wanted to do, so I humbly declined. We hadn’t set anything in stone at the time, nor did we discuss anything specific, much less even mention a contract.”

He continues, “But when I saw the news today mentioning my name, I was really surprised. I’m worried for the future of my career. I’m afraid that our relationship will not be salvageable as a result of unfounded speculations and exaggerated reports.”



Kim Ji Yong further explains that while it seems director Han Sa Min turned down the offer for the 2PM music video on the same day, he has no relations with the director, and doesn’t know for what reason he turned down the offer. “The coincidence seems to have bred a misunderstanding. I hope the situation doesn’t get any worse.”

Director Han Sa Min also spoke to OSEN regarding the issue, first stating, “I’m not even a celebrity, and it’s absurd that my name has come up as the subject of news. I’ve been filming music videos for years, and leaving a project during discussions is a common occurrence in the industry.”

He also expressed a degree of fear: “We hadn’t even signed a contract, or finalized a filming schedule, but the reality of the news on an official statement and legal action is frightening. I have no idea what’s going on with the other director [Kim Ji Yong], nor is it related to me in any way.” Director Han Sa Min concludes his statement with frustration, saying, “To be honest, I don’t want to say anything about or react to this.”



Naver Soompi

Date: 2015-05-11 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomsnose.livejournal.com
so... according to my personal translation of the events: jyp wants to release something asap, contacts whoever they could. and then they're pissed off when the directors don't jump on the opportunity right away.
they probably couldn't pull this off name dropping zanybros or the other one whose name i don't remember but directed catellina, they would have the money and energy to sue.

Date: 2015-05-11 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donutism.livejournal.com
What a mess JYP, think before you release statements. Did SM's PR department of monkeys take over or something?

On a side note, Han Sa Min make beautiful music videos. Was just re watching Rose again.

Date: 2015-05-11 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adlyeith.livejournal.com
Honestly JYP, this is some SM-level BS. Unless you have the receipts to back up the claims, don't throw around lawsuit threats so easily, especially when the directors themselves claim there were no formal contracts written up.

Hopefully this also stops people from blaming BB/YG for all of this.
Edited Date: 2015-05-11 10:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keki7.livejournal.com
JYP forget all this mess and take matters into your own hands. I have an idea, shoot the video yourselves D'Angelo-how-does-it-feel style. All you need is one camera, a black background and expertly placed droplets of water (if you need help in this regard call me).

Date: 2015-05-11 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
M E S S

Yup this was the same article I read. JYP trying to intimidate people via press release for media play and excuses to delay their comebacks

JYP's response about Han Samin basically says they had meetings and emails about the concept and then he canceled a few days after the last meeting and before the MV...and that not having a contract until right before or at the filming is common (which what kind of business practice is that) so...
Edited Date: 2015-05-11 11:23 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dysphoriia.livejournal.com
My story telling time. I think they were in talks to do the 2pm MV but the director realized "shit my homies r coming out w/ something on the same day" and "even tho I'm not making their MV, I'm not gonna do their competitors'!" He said he didn't know of the time crunch, but if he did it's pretty unprofessional considering the reason. But someone at jype def jumped the gun. When got7 director rejected their project on the same day coincidentally, then figuring BOTH directors have relations with YG, someone at jyp fired up that accusatory press release naming and shaming both of them, also leading people to believe YG somehow had a hand in this.

Date: 2015-05-11 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] contralilium.livejournal.com
lol, so neither of them had signed a contract? What is jype even attempting to sue?

Date: 2015-05-11 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckino (from livejournal.com)
the fuck is this mess?

Date: 2015-05-11 12:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
If it's true that the person who was supposed to do 2pm's MV attended those meetings and planned all that stuff then to back out last minute, and for such a stupid reason, is highly unprofessional. Buuuut without an actual contact, what are you gonna sue for..... lol. Should have just released a statement about the cancelations w/o the legal nonsense cause now everything looks bad on JYP's side. Mad at everyone tbh I DON'T WANNA WAIT FOR 2PM EVEN LONGER.

Date: 2015-05-11 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
Lol at this mess.

Date: 2015-05-11 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skidadler.livejournal.com

Here's a post on OneHallyu talking about how the director can be held liable: http://onehallyu.com/topic/171225-basics-of-contract-law-why-jype-can-sue/


Sorry if it sends you to an x-rated the first time. It's really screwed up.

Date: 2015-05-11 12:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
Ah right, verbal contracts are also a thing and what not. The post makes sense, but I admit to knowing nothing about law lol. If they were going to bring the legal action up in public their second statement should have been the first, since it laid out all that stuff so clearly.
Edited Date: 2015-05-11 12:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skidadler.livejournal.com

Agreed on the way the statements were given. I took a law class as a requirement for my degree, but a lot of the stuff I learned is fuzzy. That said, my job requires me to deal with contracts all the time; so, I can speak on that to a certain extent.


I just hope they at least had an NDA in place before sharing all of the intellectual property regarding the song/mv.

Edited Date: 2015-05-11 01:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 01:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
I was thinking about that, hearing that they showed the company all those comeback details. I doubt anyone involved in this has any sort of nefarious intentions in mind but since songs and things leak all the time you never know what might come out :x

Date: 2015-05-11 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
Verbal contracts will only get you so far if you can prove to the judge that it exists, though. lol Besides, I don't know how South Korea is, but in my country, you can go very far with taking measures like booking the MV set and preparing the costumes, and the one bailing out can still get out of it unscratched, simply because you were stupid enough to assume the contract was on, when the other guy didn't clearly agree to working on the project. It really depends on the context though, and unfortunately, we don't know who's being more truthful here.
Edited Date: 2015-05-11 02:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 02:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
It will probably come down to what kind of documents JYP can provide, emails or other correspondence with the company about details and proving their involvement. They can say the director came to meetings and what not but I suppose he can still say he never agreed, just never said no until now either lol. I'm going to assume that if JYP is taking action they must have some sort of proof to back themselves up...but giving a kpop company the benefit of the doubt usually ends up badly lmao. Even if they win they handled this poorly right out the gate :|

Date: 2015-05-11 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skidadler.livejournal.com
According to my lawyer friend, if JYPE can show proof that the production company sent cost sheets detailing everything about the cost of the set, equipment, etc. And an email of them responding accepting that, that is technically a binding agreement.

Hell, there are contracts that get signed in the back of napkins. Those are the worst... yet they are still technically binding.

P.S. I keep wanting to respond to you like, "Gee, Legolas etc etc." It would be out of love, but could also be seen as condescending if you didn't know me. That said... hi, Legolas.

Date: 2015-05-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
LOL no that's totally ok, I find it highly amusing when ppl respond to me with things like "mte Legolas" and such. I figured I'm probably gonna keep this as my default icon forever so it's a fine response :) Makes sense though about the money involvement. I can't imagine they wouldn't have talked figures by now, so hopefully that is one piece of proof the company has in their corner.

Date: 2015-05-11 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skidadler.livejournal.com
I don't know if they could even use this should things go to court, but you have to think about their budget plans for the year as well. Assuming they work in quarters like most business where Jan - Mar = Q1, etc, etc... If they had budgeted 2PM's comeback for Q2, delaying the comeback could push it back into July which would then most likely fall into Q3. That would mess with their revenue projections.

I don't know if I'm even explaining it properly. I have it in my head because when I used to work in events and production, we always budgeted by quarters and if one year we switch an event to a different quarter, it totally fucks with out YOY numbers. For me, at the end of the day, the well-being of the boys is the most important. But people also need to realize that this is also a business... it's more than just winning awards and such. It's about maintaining a revenue stream and hitting targets as well.

Date: 2015-05-11 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gee.livejournal.com
That's interesting. I know even less about business than I do law, so something like that I never would have thought of. With how busy the members are together and individually it's clear JYP is pretty careful in their planning, so it would make sense if they had locked in the comeback in this particular time long ago. They must be scrambling on multiple levels :s Of course, my fangirl heart worries most about how they are going to have a comeback now and not having this whole mess somehow reflect badly on it.

Date: 2015-05-11 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skidadler.livejournal.com
Yeah. Obviously, the boys' success is at the top of everyone's mind. As it should. But the business person in me is thinking about all the numbers behind the scenes.

I just want their comeback. And knowing how busy their schedule is, I'm just worried that not only would it affect 2PM, it'll affect all the subsequent groups/acts for several months to come. I can see them trying to avoid delays, but if that means they have to cram things in... the boys are barely resting as it is.

Date: 2015-05-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
If they don't manage to prove there was an agreement, they can always sue for an extra-contractual responsability (i don't know if that's the english equivalent, i just directly translated from my language), aka, they could ask money for the damages caused by the producers, if they can prove that the prod mislead them into thinking they would agree to the contract, and thus took initiatives toward such agreement. Like, they assumed the producer would agree, so they start booking stuff and scheduling things. But I have no idea if this is something that exist in South Korea. This extra-contractual responsability is not written in our law, but something the judges invented/apply.
Edited Date: 2015-05-11 02:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 12:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-11 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suxaholic.livejournal.com
oop JYP making an SM level faux pas

this is going to be fun

Date: 2015-05-11 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sra-interesante.livejournal.com
still a pity they won't work together
that han sa min guy makes some quality mvs
they should know better their image wont be the same after this mess

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