K-Netizens ask "Are 'Ice Cream Cake's lyrics sexual?"

[tokyocinema.livejournal.com]

(Pann talks about how Youtube comments are saying the lyrics are sexual)

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1. [+63, -1] I've also lived in the US. The song kind of has the feel... You have to live in an English-speaking country to get the vibe of the weird lyrics... For example, Americans can't understand Korean catchphrases even if they're translated. Anyways, those foreigners are not lying, I also agree with them

2. [+43, -21] (irrelevant)

3. [+38, -18] I-roaches are skilled in bashing idols in a logical way, especially Youtube commenters

4. [+34, -0] I thought they were trying to aim for a Baskin Robbins CF when I listened to the song. I guess I'm too obvious ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. [+24, -0] My cousin is Korean-American and I told her to listen to the song. She told me it sounded like oral sex. I think you have to know English to understand this

6. [+18, -0] Can someone tell me how the lyrics are erotic? I'm not being sarcastic

7. [+13, -4] If you don't get it, it's because you lack English skills... The English lyrics are indeed strange

Sources: Pann, KPKF

What do you think Omona? Are the lyrics sexual? Are they purely innocent? Is it up to the listener to decide whether or not?

Personally, I find the lyrics to be incredibly sexual (lbr, it doesn't even try to hide it)
and tbh, it wouldn't be an issue if they didn't just add a 16 year old to the group...
To each their own, however~

Also, the KPKF comments section has this gem and I cannot unsee it:

Comments

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's straight up sexual but it's definitively playing on how you read it
"first level" reading make it very innocent and fun but if you look into it, it's very alluring and sexy


That "double level of reading" (can't come up with a better translation) is fairly common though, even in k-pop

[shineebambi.livejournal.com]

Yes itin really playing up The double entendre in the lyrics.

[burnbook31.livejournal.com]

aren't the set of the MV in a motel?

it would have been okay if they didnt have an underage member like OP pointed out. I mean, i just can't imagine my sister (they're almost the same age as yeri) singing about 'your ice cream cake'. my brother would flip lol but i guess i don't speak for anyone so i can just fade away....

[torontok.livejournal.com]

There's definite innuendo, I mean lip swiping move,"it's so tasty" "Pops, it’s melting in my mouth/Putting so much in/That it’ll feel like my mouth is melting down".
I wouldn't care since Irene, Seulgi and the other one are all in their 20's and Joy's an adult but having a 16 year old on the song makes me a bit....ew
ETA: I can't believe my gif folder actually has an appropriate one for this post

[kyokomurasaki.livejournal.com]

This iconic video. Now I want to watch it but I'm at work >_>

[mad-nux.livejournal.com]

it's sexual coz we're all perverted. what if it's really just about ice cream lol poor ice cream

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Pops, it’s melting in my mouth, Putting so much in
That it’ll feel like my mouth is melting down
and
The ice cream that’s on my mouth
Makes your heart pound and you’ll come to me
Clearly we're all just filthy creatures

[921227.livejournal.com]

I feel like it's the same level of vague sexual any other kpop song is tbh
And about Yeri being too young or whatever -- idols will always be 'too young' for whatever it is they're singing/rapping about -- just last year people were talking about Joy's too young

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Happiness/Be Natural didn't have anything sexual tho?

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

I'll say again, "I don't know how people are not seeing it as sexual."

And if wouldn't be a problem if YERI wasn't singing it...at least Ireneis well above age for her rap

I am amused by the translating of YT comments though...it is kind of like Pann lol

[existingisfunny.livejournal.com]

Sometimes I just wanna see ice cream as ice cream, but too many innuendos of ice cream, Popsicles, and suckers have ruined it for me... Thanks, America. Like some Koreans find it impossible to see what makes this sexual, I find it impossible to see what makes it not.

S/O to Hyuna's ""Ice Cream"" too.

[mlmello.livejournal.com]

I'm really curious about what they think about hyuna's song. I bet that her song they thought it was sexual...

[gathyou.livejournal.com]

Lol, what a surprise
SM is obviously playing with the double-meaning of the lyrics.
I usually don't mind (there's way worse than this song) but Yeri is a bit young for this... (or the only boob shoot in the video...) At least, she doesn't have as much lines as the other, and the super dirty rap is made by Irene.

[yukahoo.livejournal.com]

But so... are the lyrics sexual in Korean?

"You have to live in an English-speaking country to get the vibe of the weird lyrics..."
"If you don't get it, it's because you lack English skills..."

Is this true? Cause if it is, then a) that's interesting and b) I doubt RV's uncle fans be fapping to English translations of the song so what's even the point?

[bubblechii.livejournal.com]

That's what I'm wondering too. @ _ @

Never forget

[tokidoki88.livejournal.com]

Re: Never forget

[ababobaby.livejournal.com]

aw i was so addicted watching this before lol

[tempestdance.livejournal.com]

eh i'm willing to bet that there are people who purposely refuse to see the sexual nature of the lyrics lest red velvet's song gets tagged with inappropriate for music shows etc.

there were people who raged at jyj's back seat being marked explicit sooooo... lolololololol

[psharp10.livejournal.com]

there were people who raged at jyj's back seat being marked explicit sooooo... lolololololol

but back seat is about..... wow did people really rage? i'm amazed i mean that song wasn't even like ICC, it was straight up sexual imo

[timetobegin.livejournal.com]

Blowjobs EXCUSE Y'ALL? I'd rather say this is about getting eaten out. (And the original lyrics like "When I come come coooome with my ice cream truck~")

I'm rather worried about that Youtube commenter saying it's 'cute' how RV got a young, cheerful concept to cover up for the sexual lyrics though. Infantalizing women while simultaneously making them sexual is a big problem in the media and not exactly something to laugh at.

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

I feel like the original lyrics went, "It's so tasty...come and taste me" so both are in the song to me

[ironicmustache.livejournal.com]

lol @ i-roaches. do they not get that their favs wouldn't be shit without foreign people wanting them? they think they get their money from korea? LOL.

even if they don't agree that the lyrics are sexual i'm just glad its getting some attention, even if it's just a little.

[tempestdance.livejournal.com]

copy-paste

it became kind of a slang after soshi antis called soshi fans so-qui, meaning soshi roaches and they started adding that suffix to any type of fans - foreign fans wae-qui, or i-roaches. it's not you, it's them. lulz

Read more at Omona They Didnt: http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/15464085.html#comments#ixzz3VzXYJR4c

i don't really know why they did a literal translation of that word (actually i do know why) but it's not used to mean straight up roaches as it did before

[milafanway.livejournal.com]

It is but koreans are "innocent" nah...it's kind of sexual but okay.....

[kyokomurasaki.livejournal.com]

This just reminds me of the BTS photoshoot they did around the time of Danger promotions where half of them were sucking suggestively on lollipops (one of which was Jungkook iirc) and wiping shaving cream off of their faces... I was like whaaaaaaaaaat is with all this innuendo lol. They're all grown except Jungkook but it was still kind of weird.

[wildette.livejournal.com]

ok but do they gotta call us I-roaches tho?

[violentiak.livejournal.com]

Lol well to be fair, we don't alway call the K-netizens the nicest things either.

[violentiak.livejournal.com]

Come on now, like the song writers really wanted to write this kind of song about actual ice cream.

Even the simplest "It's so tasty, come and chase me" and "I scream, you scream" lines have definitely certain sexual connotations in them.

[miuratenshi.livejournal.com]

The lyrics are definitely full of innuendo:

pops, it’s melting in my mouth, Putting so much in
That it’ll feel like my mouth is melting down</>

I’ll light the candles as I only wait for you

[aurellee.livejournal.com]

waiting for the follow up song to be 'cream pie'. Don't let me down SME.

[treaclyena.livejournal.com]

'toss salad' sounds like a healthier choice

[parkjsun.livejournal.com]

LMAOOO @ this revisionist history. You got shit because you said their concept was supposed to be a "dumb white girl"/"dumb Cali girl"/"dumb sorority girl" concept. Because apparently you think being sexual is somehow related with intelligence? Or you just think "white girls" = "dumb"?

http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/15426282.html?thread=1269759466#t1269759466

[lysblack.livejournal.com]

my problem is not how sexual it is (because it is really sexual) but how young their maknae line is (I know that yeri is really young, I believe so is joy, right?) and how a group can easily talk about cum in their mouth as long it is hidden between ice cream metaphors as long the concept is cute and bubbly and people will worship them and put them above other groups for their purity, and bash people who openly embrace and talk about their sexuality.

[bunica1990.livejournal.com]

mte

[iznanassi.livejournal.com]

I guess they're sexual I mean I see it but I interpreted it as like....ice cream being the thing that attracts you someone's lips/makes a kiss sweet etc.

I think it is a problem that younger groups are being sexualized in this way but I personally don't think this is the best example.

[bunica1990.livejournal.com]

Smh @ i-roaches. Do they think their faves only live off of what they earn in Korea? That's cute.

And yes they are.

[keykibummie.livejournal.com]

but I thought the "ice" in ice cream looked a little iffy though....

[tokyocinema.livejournal.com]

well, another thing i can't unsee~

[winged-monster.livejournal.com]

I-roaches are skilled in bashing idols in a logical way, especially Youtube commenters

So we are at least smart!