Why am I even surprised anymore: Topp Dogg member Seogoong moved to sub-unit Under Dogg

[in-noctem.livejournal.com]

“With his wish to cover a broader musical spectrum and show more unique, diverse stages, beginning January 16th, 2015, Seogoong will attempt to create a new unit and work together with Under Dogg, independent from Topp Dogg.”

• back when topp dogg were promoting their amadeus deluxe album, seogoong left a fansign early with basically no explanation


• around this time he also missed a couple small schedules, supposedly bc of a minor injury


• in october topp dogg released the annie mv and had their anniversary and although seogoong appeared in the mv, had lines in the song, and was pictured inside the physical album, they announced that he would not be participating in annie promotions for a month because he hurt himself during practice


• in november topp dogg held their first concert, seogoong did not attend


• in december topp dogg held a showcase in malaysia, seogoong did not attend


• in january topp dogg held a concert in japan, seogoong did not attend, supposedly he had to go rehabilitation for his foot injury


• throughout these months seogoong posted a couple selcas on the official topp dogg twitter, cho pd posted a picture of seogoong and jiwon on his instagram on pepero day, there were some small things going around about fans seeing him limping around the stardom building - besides this no one heard from seogoong since september


• on january 16th it was announced that seogoong would no longer be a part of topp dogg, instead he would be put in underdogg with jiwon, hyeontae, andy and leon


• seogoong posted a selca on the official topp dogg twitter after the announcement expressing his love for toppklass and thanking us


• it is said that apparently this is now part of topp dogg’s concept to have “member exchange” because stardom originally wanted to debut more smaller groups but instead debuted all their male trainees in topp dogg (and eventually under dogg) and just planned to do activities with subunits in the future, although i haven’t seen any real confirmation of this


• on january 17th topp dogg attended an award show to accept their award for rookie of the year and in their acceptance speech sangdo thanked “topp dogg member seogoong”

source: ToppDoggHouse + Topp Dogg fancafe, trans by Topp Dogg International + hojoon.tk

Basically this whole thing is super sketchy because he just disappeared for months with no real explanation and suddenly he's now in another group because he was unsatisfied with the line distribution??? And idk why they thought the member exchange thing was a good idea. There's also a post explaining Stardom's brilliant plan of debuting the trainees they had but realized it was impossible to do so in smaller groups so they debuted them all in a large group LMAO. I can think of one member who wouldn't be a loss if he hadn't debuted...

Comments

[rmarques.livejournal.com]

Well, I guess dumping all their trainees in one group reinforces the hip-hop Super Junior thing they said they were going for, I guess.

But still, moving one of their best singers to the subunit is a hella weird move.

[happydirections.livejournal.com]

this whole 'exchanging members concept' is confusing as hell.
topp dogg has a lot of talented members and stardom is not using those talents to their full potential. oh, and have under dogg actually done anything yet?

[rmarques.livejournal.com]

As far as I know, their subunits have performed at their showcases, but that's it.

[smilla-sini.livejournal.com]

I'm not reallly into this group, but you know how there are subs with the lyrics and their names in their videos and I remember his name because I liked his voice. I mean, I thought he was the best in their vocal line? This whole situation seems so strange to me.

[zeysech.livejournal.com]

I still haven't mastered all their names so this just makes it more confusing

[edanz-castle.livejournal.com]

+1 I'm trying to figure out which member this is...

[audiograms.livejournal.com]

I love topp dogg, but they are confusing as all hell, and I'm not getting the names right yet and this isn't helping. I can't with kpop messiness this bap stuff is bad enough.

[hyungmoney.livejournal.com]

Lmao he is one of their best vocalists too this is so damn messy. Get it together stardom

[sub-divided.livejournal.com]

I'm here for the subunits concept! There are too many good vocalists/rappers in a Topp Dogg for them to be buried in a 13-member group.

[edanz-castle.livejournal.com]

Aww it was nice of Stardom to let all the trainees debut lol.

[hyungmoney.livejournal.com]

lmao

[cairistiona.livejournal.com]

so...have andy, jiwon and hyeontae left topp dogg too, and are just in under dogg? this whole thing confuses me

i suppose that's kind of the thing. it just is confusing...

[chibi-roses.livejournal.com]

I don't think they were ever officially in topp dogg, except when they were promoting in China and they performed with them/were on shows together?

[cairistiona.livejournal.com]

oh wow, i haven't seen you on in here in years ♥ it's been agessssss

thank you~

[desertspade.livejournal.com]

~____~ underdogg hasn't even done anything (also has there been any recent news of leon?)

will he still part of the lion kingdom? and is stardom even going to do anything with the kingdom subunits...

[mellicoonn.livejournal.com]

Leon is part of Underdogg he's is not on Lion Kingdom..

[desertspade.livejournal.com]

oh no, i know! i meant if seogoong still will be, oops.

[dot-rose.livejournal.com]

I don't follow TopDogg so I'm confused.
so basically Stardom Ent are going to keep transferring members to Under Dogg until they find a cashcow? And then the whole process repeats until they have enough cashcows?

[jjang-intae.livejournal.com]

I'm so mad because they never ever mentioned anything about moving TD members out to Underdogg. Also, I find it very hard to believe that the reason he was moved was because he wasn't satisfied with the number of lines he got because why would you want to move from a group where you actually had quite a number of lines to a group that doesn't do anything????? And why did Stardom just keep telling fans he was sick and then suddenly pull this on us????? Argh I'm so mad because he's my favourite along with Kidoh why did they have to screw them over like this

[lilrand0m-chik.livejournal.com]

I hope Seogoong was at least injured in the first half of being missed because otherwise it feels strangely deceitful to me

[eijem-sawada.livejournal.com]

oh..so that's why there were only 12 guys on their recent yt vids... I honestly think he's more useful than nakta

[lilrand0m-chik.livejournal.com]

I know a while back they had a plan to "borrow" members from topp dogg to underdogg..  But I guess borrowing wasn't what they actually meant.

I'm not 100% sure on the original group, but I would say they moved him purely because they had no solid vocalist in it.

Still, it's a mess and I wish he didn't leave but I guess we'll see how well their promotions will go in china...

[shrdmdnssftw.livejournal.com]

This whole thing is soooo messy and I'm basically just :( because he was one of my favourites and definitely one of their stronger vocals. I'm not too surprised though because let's be real - a lot of Topp Dogg fans saw this (or something similar, at least) coming.

I feel like Stardom should really just consider splitting up/revamping Topp Dogg tbh - as much as I like the group, I like individual members more, and there are clearly friendships/groups that fit together well/have a similar mood. The positive response to the vocal line covers and the way Peekaboo is so obviously different to other tracks indicates that something like a vocal group and a rap group situation would be viable.

[thariamon.livejournal.com]

What a mess, I do not understand anything
I need a graphic for dummies