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Q: Is it true that some companies cast celebrity trainees specifically to provide sexual services?
Entertainment agency rep: There are trainees that are cast into a pleasure group.


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Entertainment agency rep: They're the type of trainees that would be considered pretty by any non-celebrity
Entertainment agency rep: But professionally, they lack in some areas to fully debut as celebrities. They usually get picked into pleasure groups.


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Companies will split trainees into those that have the looks and talents to debut and those that don't. The ones that don't are used to provide sexual services and later kicked out of the company. They're basically used to open up opportunities for their real trainees.


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1. [+45, -2] This is why they say the entertainment industry is dirty...
2. [+27, -1] That's so cruel... they're probably thinking that they'll become celebrities one day too
3. [+25, -1] I don't know about the bigger companies but smaller ones whether you're a celebrity or a model are forced to deal with sponsors. Sponsors are a necessity in the industry to get anywhere. Celebrities will either work with many different sponsors or just one. NS Yoonji's pretty and good at live but people think she's not getting anywhere because she doesn't use sponsors.
4. [+16, -0] I was a trainee at a small agency for three years and I had to give up my dreams after realizing how dirty everything was. At our company, the trainees were divided into 'effort group' and 'practice group'. The people at the company called the effort group unnis the 'pleasure group'. Now that I think about it, I think that group was to provide sexual favors. They'd always say they had to check clothes fits and sizes and dress them in skimpy clothing and take them somewhere every weekend. The industry's dirty.
5. [+10, -1] It's undeniable that companies definitely favor trainees that they know will become a big star.
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Sources: Netizenbuzz, Pann via Nate

Date: 2015-01-11 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juhli.livejournal.com
That's fucked up.

Date: 2015-01-11 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
Absolutely disgusting. Trainees need so much more protection.

Date: 2015-01-11 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittyboo17.livejournal.com
I feel sad to say I'm not even that surprised but ugh, this is just disgusting =/

Date: 2015-01-11 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laeryn.livejournal.com
I'm not surprised but that's twisted af. I'm so sad for those trainees that think they got in because they could become idols and instead... ugh.

Date: 2015-01-11 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
is it known if the idols who are the biggest & at the biggest agencies (snsd, big bang, etc) also have to go through this kinda stuff? unfortunately for girl groups and smaller agencies this is not surprising at all, but i'm curious about idols coming from agencies that have "power".
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Date: 2015-01-11 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scheisse.livejournal.com
I mean, this shit happens in the west with artists who are signed to the biggest, most powerful music labels in the world. I'd say the more powerful the label, the more it happens. With power comes people who can get away with this stuff and do it because they know they can.

Date: 2015-01-11 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
Apart YG creeping that one girl he eventually ended up marrying I don't think this sort of stuff is common there as they take in so few trainees. Plus they keep their trainees in separate building so they only meet teachers (who are so lowly that they would be fired if they did stuff like this) daily and powerful people only once a month in an evaluation session in which they aren't ever alone with anyone.

However, SM has an army of trainees so you might have to suck few dicks in order to make it into the final team. And they are such an inhumane company that they might even have some sort of pleasure team that they employ for some business meetings. There are even rumors that SNSD used to be forced to serve drinks for business men in some SM's business meetings. Also SM has bunch of creepy senior artists who pray on trainees.
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Date: 2015-01-12 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycorrhizoid.livejournal.com
It's probably less common, since they have more clout, tend to debut younger, and have a lot more eyes on them, but I don't doubt that it happens in some cases.

We know it was happening in CCM . . .

Date: 2015-01-11 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velveteenkitten.livejournal.com
Echoing the other. Not surprising as we've heard of this before but it so fucking backwards and disgusting I have no words for it. I just can't wrap my head around how someone can be so intentionally cruel.

Date: 2015-01-11 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurtmybones.livejournal.com
fucking disgusting. also, stuff like this is why I have zero respect for all those coward ass "rappers" coming after the idols themselves instead of the shady system exploiting these kids

Date: 2015-01-11 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loveshatori.livejournal.com
I totally agree with u in that respect, I wish they understood what idols have to go through instead of bashing them

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Date: 2015-01-11 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrt131n.livejournal.com
The fact that they are doing this to someone's son and daughter is really crazy. But you know, this also makes you think of idols that jumped from one company to another before finally getting a chance to debut.

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Date: 2015-01-11 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viakyusu.livejournal.com
This makes me sick to my stomach and they join these companies as babies...the world is so twisted.

Date: 2015-01-11 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona.livejournal.com
this is absolutely revolting, and makes me upset to think of these kids being exploited, especially if they're then tossed aside like rubbish once the ceos and other people who use them get bored playing with them



on a brighter, happier note, it relieves me to think that yoonji unnie doesn't use a sponsor, but that she seems to be enjoying what she does and she's not any worse off for it, even if she's not terribly popular
i'm just glad that her co. hasn't tried to foist her off on any older and more powerful men

Date: 2015-01-11 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeniablysarah.livejournal.com
How is this not illegal?????

Date: 2015-01-12 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jannytruant.livejournal.com
I assume it is. Even in countries such as the ones you and I live in, it's very very difficult to extract oneself from an abusive situation, and even if one does it's nigh-on impossible to get any kind of justice. Young victims in particular are both most vulnerable, and most likely to be ignored.
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Date: 2015-01-11 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scheisse.livejournal.com
I was thinking about the BAP vs TS Ent. thing the other day and how they were forced to work nonstop and then started thinking about Sonamoo and how girls who are contracted by shady companies probably have to deal with a lot of sexual harassment to "pay off debts" and it bummed me out. Not to even mention the amount of girl groups who haven't debuted and have to deal with it in the shadows.
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Date: 2015-01-11 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winged-monster.livejournal.com
Who is this guy exactly? I wonder if he is too involved in the system to talk more about it.

The separated group is sick, but I feel like there's a motive to say that trainees that debut never do this. Sadly, the public would look down on them, and it would hurt their reputation. It makes me upset thinking of idols would face more hate than the companies forcing them to do these things.

We already know of the working actress who had to do this and ended up committing suicide.
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Date: 2015-01-11 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyungmoney.livejournal.com
This isn't surprising at all but it still makes me feel sick.

Date: 2015-01-11 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modernelegance.livejournal.com
I think about this a lot actually...I constantly wonder if the behavior of certain idols/stars comes from the fact that they've been sexually taken advantage of as a child/young teen. The atmosphere of the idol creation machine is ripe for these predators so my heart constantly breaks whenever I think about it. (which is at least once a week tbh)

Date: 2015-01-12 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashedsilver.livejournal.com
Really not intending to pry, but what you said got me curious. What kind of behaviour have you observed that made you feel like something wasn't entirely right?

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Date: 2015-01-11 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
i mean you see the shit that goes down in hollywood like kesha and dr. luke and etc... it's fucking terrible that this happens all over the world, and that your passion costs you stuff that you shouldn't need to sacrifice.

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Date: 2015-01-11 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seroquels.livejournal.com
Disgusting. Yet another reason why I won't pay for kpop (with a few exceptions). The fact that this shit goes on still is crazy. These poor ppl desperate for fame/debut, and it's prob not like they feel they can fight back. These companies are no better than human traffickers.

Wasn't there some shit about Disney doing something like this years back? I would NEVER want my child to be a trainee. Nope. I understand why parents are so against their kids doing this.
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Date: 2015-01-12 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiograms.livejournal.com
this is what i think about any time group members leave or sue their companies.

Date: 2015-01-12 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agoongprincess.livejournal.com
ugh honestly, this is so disgusting and appalling.

Date: 2015-01-12 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashedsilver.livejournal.com
They say this about the girl groups, but I wonder about the boy groups as well... There used to be rumours going round the Japanese entertainment industry and I wouldn't be surprised if there's some stuff in K-ent too :(

Date: 2015-01-14 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aki-san.livejournal.com
There was an article a few months ago about male trainees being just as likely to be abused, if not potentially more at risk in certain situations because there's even greater stigma against male victims than female ones, making them less likely to ever tell anyone about it. (Not saying that it's worse for male trainees, it's heartbreaking and disgusting for any victim, male or female.)
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Date: 2015-01-12 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitsujiga.livejournal.com
i'm sick of this shit..

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