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Pop idol Park Jae-bum, the leader of 2PM, put himself on an airplane heading to the United States as if he were ordered to leave Korea for this controversial remark, which some people perceived derogatory toward South Korea.

While the controversy is still unfolding, Hankyoreh Sinmun on Saturday ran a piece that pointed out the lack of understanding in Korean society toward the Koreans abroad, who are second or third generations, born to a Korean family there.

Park, for instance, grew up in Palisade, a town in New Jersey that has one of the highest concentrations of Koreans in America. The young Koreans there tend to display the trait of “Twinkie,” a term indicating Asians in the U.S. who make great efforts to assimilate the mainstream American society.

“Their identity is closer to American than Korean,” said an unnamed Korean in the piece who currently lives in the U.S.

The problem is that although these individuals regard themselves as “Americans,” the American society doesn’t regard them as such because of their Asian-looking appearance.

Frustrated, some Twinkies turn to a “negative joke” towards their parents’ country.

“Among Korean Twinkies, there is a culture that if you don’t look down on Korea, you are regarded as a nerd,” said a Korean blogger in America. The 2PM’s seemingly pejorative remark on Korea can be understood in that sense, Hankyoreh said.

Most young Korean-Americans struggle through their adolescent period about their identity and eventually choose one. And the more one lives near a mainstream white American neighborhood the more the possibility he chooses to become a Twinkie.

“In general, the Korean expatriate community respects each individuals’ choice,” the piece said.

Park Jun-kyu, who teaches at South Korea’s Chonnam University and who himself is a 1.5 generation Korean-American told the newspaper: “The term Twinkie is a symbol among young Korean Americans who struggle with their self-identity. The Korean society in a sense overacted to Park’s remark, which he made long time ago. The Koreans here took his remark as an ‘attack’ to the Korean society.”

Since Park’s debut in 2008 the group has become one of hottest pop syndromes in Korea.

But Park fell in hot water for remarks he made in 2005-2007 on Korea, which belatedly became public. He allegedly said, “Korea is gay. I hate Koreans. I wanna come back (to the United States)” on his social networking Web site Myspace, enraging fans.

Source: Korea Times
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Embrace and be proud of your heritage guys, you're not a nerd if you do. ^___^

And I guess it depends on where you live, because where I am, everyone's pretty cool about being Asian.
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Date: 2009-09-14 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loveandetc.livejournal.com
i have never heard the term twinkie used in this context...

Date: 2009-09-14 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mansexual.livejournal.com
...lol me neither.

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Date: 2009-09-14 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorakyura.livejournal.com
This information is all super useful for netizens living in a week ago

.__.
Not that I'm bitter or anything

Date: 2009-09-14 10:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-14 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowleyd545.livejournal.com
hm. never knew jay lived in NJ. interesting.

Date: 2009-09-14 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dominique-franc.livejournal.com
Could have sworn he was from Seattle
maybe a little screw up on the editor/writer

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Date: 2009-09-14 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breathe-ai.livejournal.com
The problem is that although these individuals regard themselves as “Americans,” the American society doesn’t regard them as such because of their Asian-looking appearance.

That is the most frustrating part of being any generation American, especially the first couple...not just Korean. A lot of teens go through some sort of cultural identity crisis...crisis maybe a bit extreme of a word, but blame my prof for pounding it into my head

Date: 2009-09-14 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvia-e.livejournal.com
THIS.

Most people who are first,second, third, etc generation anything, often face difficult decisions because they identify with two cultures. It's especially difficult if these cultures are drastically different as I can imagine American and Korean cultures are.

Date: 2009-09-14 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithgrowsold.livejournal.com
): i wish asian-americans would try less to be twinkies, because then i could find more to fangirl asian pop music with xD

but ah, identity crisis suck. i'm lucky to be white, i guess, in that respect. ):

also. it's nice to see someone speak out for jay. :)

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purkin.livejournal.com
1) We use the term "banana" over here, LMAO.
2) All the Koreans I know (not including me) quite comfortably proud of being Korean. They love their culture, their HMart, and their food. xD

Date: 2009-09-14 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-cranes.livejournal.com
"1) We use the term "banana" over here, LMAO."
That's exactly what I thought XD

Btw, this is Miriam. I FOUND YOOOU ^^

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:07 am (UTC)
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ignore my other comment LOL.

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Date: 2009-09-14 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] czarny.livejournal.com
LOL. Wrong comm bb.

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fraash.livejournal.com
mmm, idek,
the whole world should just be open minded.
Screw the 'twinky' or 'coconut' or 'oreo' crap,
and all the 'yer a nerd if you dont look down on culture'
w/e.

anyway, props to him for speaking out.

Date: 2009-09-14 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treat.livejournal.com
Jae lived in New Joisee? Never knew.

This is a rather simple & watered-down view of Korean-Americans, "twinkies" or "bananas," as he calls'em. No, we don't always diss Korea because the so-called white America rejects us, wtf.

Date: 2009-09-14 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucyownsjoaquin.livejournal.com
i think he grew up in palisades park not palisade if that fact is true

Date: 2009-09-14 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fadeintoyou.livejournal.com
a little ot but i'm a little slow, so someone tell me wth does this "...who himself is a 1.5 generation Korean-American" mean?

not the first generation but not quite the second generation? in between the first and second generations? (o.0)

Date: 2009-09-14 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treat.livejournal.com
It means he was born in Korea and immigrated to America at a young age.

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simply-yunjae.livejournal.com
LOL. Twinkie.
/still laughing.

Date: 2009-09-14 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omgcats.livejournal.com
Twinkies just remind me of young gay men. :|

Date: 2009-09-14 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shukumi.livejournal.com
That's why I always try to replace it with the term banana XD

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michellembam.livejournal.com
O_______O
do they mean Palisades Park?

HOMFG. I live so close XD

Date: 2009-09-14 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glasstonepearls.livejournal.com
me tooo ^^ but all the koreans live over there so that they can be more korean. you know youre in pal park when you see all the krn signs.

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] civilized-era.livejournal.com
Among Korean Twinkies, there is a culture that if you don't look down on Korea, you are regarded as a nerd

...what?

Date: 2009-09-14 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovemail321.livejournal.com
Twinkies? I have never heard it used in this context.
I've only heard it in the gay context.

LOL makes me think of some of my friends who call Johnny's twinks.

I honestly do not like it when my Asian friends make fun of their countries (most of them are natives btw) because they are trying to "fit in" here in America. In my book, that is not fitting in, that's being ignorant and disgraceful.
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Date: 2009-09-14 02:16 am (UTC)
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I think it's more than just Asian Americans because I'm hispanic (a brown one) and I went through the phase when I hated my culture and thought my life would be easier if I was white. Now I love my culture and people. Doesn't almost every non-white teenager living in America go through this though?

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dinobyte.livejournal.com
tbh, i'm kinda tired of all this Jay news.
i mean, it IS selfish and a bit inconsiderate,
but i just want all of this to stop. : /

but these articles realizing overkill and
reactions of netizens and fans alike are
good, and i hope that this does Korea, or
at least the less open-minded ones, some justice.

and i hope Asian-Americans start embracing
their culture, cause alot of my friends sure
as hell don't and i can't spaz over cute asians w/
them. XD

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Are you writing a poem? lol

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Wow, where do you live? I want to move there.

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunsandsmoke.livejournal.com
lmao this is such a a badly written and shallow article. also i lolled at how they were going for an intellectual voice in the article and then kept on using "twinkie" with complete seriousness hahaha


yes yes jae didn't want to seem like a nerd to his bboy friends so he called korea gay. that must be all there is to it. loollllll

btw i am in touch and very familiar with my korean side, but my fob friends still all call me a twinkie/banana. WHATEVS GUYS, I'M GONNA GO OFF HERE AND BE A FABULOUS TWINKIE WITH MY BB JOHN CHO/HAROLD KIM ♥

Image

Date: 2009-09-14 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiobebop.livejournal.com
JOHN CHO!=FUCKING AWESOME!

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] originaru.livejournal.com
I prefer the term banana because twinkies are appetizing to me at all.

I guess I was lucky because as an Asian living in North America, I've never anything close to an identity crisis. I'm proud of my nationality and my ethnicity. =) I can poke fun at my background as a Chinese person and as a Canadian lol.

Date: 2009-09-14 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] originaru.livejournal.com
Crap, I meant NOT appetizing. :X

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Date: 2009-09-14 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanillacat.livejournal.com
We call the less-assimilated ones "fobs" in 'the Birginia', lol. (where my NoVa-ers at??) A lot of times the more-assimilated ones get called "white-washed".
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