Revealing the background of B.A.P’s lawsuit…”What is more important than the calculations?"

[jjang-intae.livejournal.com]

The six members of B.A.P has submitted their official statement to ‘Do Dam’ law firm. They revealed the details of the last 3 years.

They pointed out the unfair treatment they received and also the company’s false calculations. They have requested to make the data regarding the series of accusations and problems to be made public.

This the B.A.P representative’s official statement.

<The 3 years time they spent working hard for their dream>

The B.A.P members debuted in 2012, and including that year they had 260 official schedules, 140 official schedules in 2013 (16 overseas schedules), 110 official schedules in 2014 and of those 33 overseas schedules in America, Europe, China, Japan, and Singapore.  With their dreams of becoming the best singers they have received the nickname ‘You Don’t Rest B.A.P’.

And to achieve those dreams they followed all of the company’s policies.

This year particularly, starting from March 21 to June, they had to digest a murderous schedule touring Sendai, Osaka, Tokyo, Philippines, New York, Dallas, Chicago, LA, London, Paris, Dusseldorf, Melbourne, Sydney, Taiwan, Singapore, Fukuoka, Nagoya, Chiba, and Bangkok.

<Even in the emergency room they had to go to performances with the thought of compensating damages>

In mid-October 2014 one of the B.A.P members were in the emergency room for dehydration and despite the hospital employees attempt to dissuade the company employees that “Something bad could happen if he’s discharged in this state”, the member himself has had the company tell him “you’ll be responsible for damage compensation” beforehand and finished the concert with an IV bandage.

They paid no attention to the member’s health, they have binded the members with “following the contract, damage compensation”, and with the company not releasing any accurate material to the members, they were “in a situation with no faith” and no other choice that could be made.

<It doesn’t matter if we earned $0. What is important is the company revealing accurate paperwork>

Besides the physical and mental fatigue from their busy schedules, what gave member’s a hard time was ‘a trust issue with the company’. The first time the member’s received their first pay of $17,900 on August 1, 2014 but to get that process to get that pay was very difficult. The reason was not because of the amount but the company changing their words every time and not showing the account statements.

Below is regarding the calculations and is organized to show the company changing their words.

<Circumstantial evidence of false use, company can not reply when confronted about the $1.55 million album promotion cost>

From late 2013 all the members wanted from the company was to reveal at least one clearly explained paper. The members can look at the contract and see the contract conditions, so they wanted to see if the calculations were done properly.

However the member’s requests have been ignored. The members have tried to believe in their company even though the company didn’t release any materials for them.

In the end they never released any material regarding the sale sums, and even now the member’s don’t know how much the contract deposit or what the contract conditions were for their performances.

When the members received the account statements on July 31, 2014 they have asked for an explanation regarding the $1.55 million ‘unexplained album promotion expense’, but the company is failing to give us a reply.

It is crucial evidence that the money has not been used properly. If there was no false use of expenses, then the group would have passed the net profit turning point in 2013.

Kim Nam Joo from Do Dam law firm says “The company will need to explain exactly how the album promotion fees were $1.55 million. If they don’t, it will be very difficult for them to be exempt from the legal responsibility of lying to the members, providing false calculations and where they used that money.”

If the expenses and use of the money are legitimate, the members wouldn’t care if they earned $0.

However, the company did not reveal any paperwork regarding sales, contract details and material, and where the money has been used. They are misleading the public by saying how much they ‘would have’ earned in 2014 and 2015.

<They made appearances by force>

On the other hand, not only did the company not explain any contracts but did not let the members know about variety appearances and performance schedules beforehand and ordered them to go.

Around November of this year, even though a B.A.P member’s (OP note: the member is Yongguk) health hasn’t been well and he was getting hospital treatment, the company has notified this member of his appearance in the SBS program “Rule of the Jungle”.

Regarding this the member said “My health isn’t good and if I appear on Rule of the Jungle then I might damage the image of the group and the show. I will go on the show when I get healthier” and revealed how he couldn’t appear on the program no matter what.

However the company has ignored the member’s opinion and said “We made the schedule so you have to go onto Rule of the Jungle” and forced him to attend the show meeting held beforehand.

Even though the member told them company how sick they were the company didn’t accept their excuse and made a one-sided schedule and forced them to comply. By saying that the member’s sudden emotional outburts caused troubles with the variety appearance is evidence that the company has forced them to attend one-sided schedules.

Also, even if the member’s health were bad and they asked for a break many times the company scheduled an South American tour without letting the members know and even made the order to keep it a secret from the members.

The group found out about their South American tour when one staff said to the members “You have a South American tour 2 weeks from now. I was told to keep it a secret from you guys”. That is how excluded B.A.P was from their schedule maintenance.

This has happened recently in mid-October of 2014.

<The company is insisted there is a 3rd party influence and taking legal action against them for slander>

From the company’s official statement today, the company is insisting that there is a 3rd party behind the members. However, there is no other 3rd party influence. The only 3rd party influence was the company that tried to make them into “Singing machines”, pressuring them to work endlessly, not provide the members with even the basic account statements, and keeping overseas schedules a secret.

With no idea who the 3rd party influence is and no evidence on how they came about to the knowledge of a 3rd party influence, the company is making false accusations. The members are being examined for possibilities of slander against their company.

trans. cr; Nicole @ baptrans ; take out with full credit

source: baptrans + dispatch

Comments

[baekpedaling.livejournal.com]

I've continuously had angry crying fits over BAP. TS needs to go down

[sakura-holic.livejournal.com]

My babies ;;
You have suffered so much..

Daehyun looked so drained during that performance, drained and pissed for good reason too!
Wow, how the fuck can they tell the members about a TOUR of all things two weeks before?! That's some shady shit, along with the part where the keep changing their words about their financial position...

"They are misleading the public by saying how much they ‘would have’ earned in 2014 and 2015"

This! They made a bloody excel graph predicting the profits for 2015 (that's stupid, how can you even predict that!) and talked about how if the members would have just shut up and complied they would have earned more like!!??

I am glad they immediately released a counter statement, I was already starting to see some people siding with TS or completely misunderstanding the whole situation by only focusing on the financial aspect of it.

Also YAAAS Go ahead and sue them for slander lololol

[bunica1990.livejournal.com]

Holy shit!

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

OP...have you seen the activity list too....crazy

When this counter statement came out I literally was like, "YES...READ THEM...SUE THEM SOME MORE!"

TS can shove right off...their management is terrible and they've run the kids ragged

I remember being shocked at KCON 2012 that BAP was the opening act since they had comeback like 3 or 4 times that year

[jjang-intae.livejournal.com]

Activity list? I didn't see anything on my timeline or dashboard :/

[swhyeon1991.livejournal.com]

Probably hipployta meant this list (https://twitter.com/TIVOLI_HIMCHAN/status/540977373454139392) :((

[jjang-intae.livejournal.com]

thank you ^^ good lord I didn't expect it to be that long ;;

[swhyeon1991.livejournal.com]

If you look at the replies, some other fan even added some missing dates oh god I can't even.

[in-noctem.livejournal.com]

With the way TS withheld schedule info from them, it's as if they knew the members would (rightfully) kick up a fuss over having to attend schedules in their poor state of health and thus chose to tell them only when it was too late and the members would feel obligated to attend these schedules.

And TS - how about you start coming up with better lies to cover your supposed expenses than to constantly release statements going woe is me we always had their best interests at heart but the members didn't see that!!

[darkensunrise.livejournal.com]

LOL @ bap saying they're gonna take legal action against ts for saying there's a third party. ts is just digging themselves into an even deeper hole.

What about the CEO meeting the parents while drunk, refusing to show them the papers and say "why do i need reveal the company's secrets.." how incredibly unprofessional! and I'm really shocked that they kept the information about the south american tour from bap, and how they went against doctor's orders and made daehyun perform while sick. the way they talked about how many times these boys went to the hospital, they made it sound like it was a normal, every day thing!

i'm surprised they waiting this long to follow through with the lawsuit tbh (some say they wanted to wait for zelo to turn 18 but there's no source for this info)

[torontok.livejournal.com]

From a legal perspective it would make sense to wait for Zelo to turn legal.I'm not sure if Korean law has similar provisions in the law of contracts re: minors but Zelo could probably have gotten out of this years ago easily.I guess if they had sued while he was underage, his case would possibly have been handled separately from that of the adult members.

This is just me speculating based off what I've studied in Contract Law dont mind me

[darkensunrise.livejournal.com]

It does make sense and it kind of made me happy from an OT6 perspective but yeah, I don't think there was ever a source for this info, sadly.

[honeebs.livejournal.com]

slander srsly they are foul. Answer the damn questions, share the papers..... they can't and keep throwing it back on the boys. wtf start selling stock or something each should be compensated and released with name. Is their firm good, I want them to get 2 law firms and take them to the cleaners plus damages.
I had an amazing time with BAP and purchased lots of things that my old ass didn't need but wanted to for them. I'm pissed they haven't been given the respect (and rolling in cash) by their company for going hard at all times on every project with fucking smiles. In the moment they prob were happy with their babyz but after awhile that's not enough nor should it be.

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Ugh, I keep looking at my copy of First Sensibility and feeling rage because I'm realising all the work they put into their music didn't pay off for them and I was probably padding the pockets of their scumbag management

[atopworld.livejournal.com]

I'm so angry, tears have formed. I don't even know what to say.

[modestgoddess79.livejournal.com]

TS is absolute trash. It has been obvious for a long time that they were sick and over worked. As a fan I at least hoped they were being paid for their efforts. I just think about how healthy and good looking Yongguk was when they debuted and how he has gotten so skinny and sickly looking. Then poor Daehyun being forced to sing lead and dance when he should be in the hospital.

[atopworld.livejournal.com]

Right? It's one thing when as a fan, you notice the weight loss, the growing bags under their eyes, the sickly paleness, but when you read everything that confirms it and more....it's way more upsetting because it's worse than what we would have thought.

[nana-the-dwarf.livejournal.com]

I saw them at MuBank in Mexico and what can I say...

They were extremely professional and gave their all for their songs and dances but at the same time they looked sort of angry? I don't really know how to describe it, but something was definitely off with them, it was as if they were off somewhere else. At least that was my impression.

I guess I know now why.

[xxyumekaxx.livejournal.com]

That thing with compensating damage irks me the most, along with not clearly showing all the calculations and not being allowed to contact anyone. I was once in the same spot with a 'compensating damage' clause in a job contract and oh boy, there's always a reason they put something like that on a contract. It's probably way worse for BAP, because 'compensating' the cost for a show is probably a lot, perfect way for a boss to force his workers to work.
Hopefully they'll win this.

[weerainbow.livejournal.com]

This is really twisted.
Greedy and power hungry, that's what they sound like.

[leopolitan.livejournal.com]

this is disgusting, especially with a young kid like zelo in the group... :(( BAP seems like it was TS's moneymaker so its mindblowing how much they were mistreated

[luvey.livejournal.com]

i don't even follow BAP, and i know that since their debut they have been THE hardest and overworked idol group in the industry.
i'm flabbergasted at the company trying to turn this around on BAP as slander, but it will dig themselves into more of a hole if they continue not to provide the paperwork.

and if the company loses this suit, hopefully BAP will counter-sue on the slander issue. but all these claims really raises a red flag in how NOTHING in the K Entertainment industry has changed since the JYJ/Geng lawsuits. we already suspected that the industry is pretty crappy behind the polished perfection, but this is just not right.

[http://users.livejournal.com/___varying/]

Oh TS.