Daehyun's vocal teacher reveals more info about TS/B.A.P feud

[jjang-intae.livejournal.com]

(tn: this is what Daehyun’s teacher uploaded onto his personal twitter account)

First, Dispatch has cleaned everything up the most realistically and I couldn’t say anything while I was active because I worried it would harm the team but I want to say something now.

They didn’t ask for the payment last year, they just wanted to see the details of how they were going to get paid but they didn’t even show that properly. They just provided the total amount of what they calculated and told them to view it briefly. How can you expect the parents to accept that. They never explained in detail how they were at a minus so of course from the parents’ standpoint it didn’t make sense.

At first they wouldn’t even meet the parents but after they met, the parents complained about how they could act that way to the parents of their company’s artists. Of course it could have meant to be amongst themselves but how can the parents not be worried when the company they believed would take care of their children behaves that way?

They have cut off all ties to the outside world for the past 3 years. Never mind not having a cell phone, even if the fan signings were at one of the member’s hometowns they wouldn’t let them see their parents for more than 10 minutes. Even though they obviously knew they had nothing scheduled, they wouldn’t let them see their parents who came from far away. They never had an official break and lived under the manager’s watch.

This is the first time they ever had an official break. Before they had breaks given secretly by the managers or head of the team for one or two days. The official break is actually very shameful because everything fell apart after a confrontation with the parents. Almost makes you think if they’re asking them to create a scene so it can be more advantageous for them when they get sued. They didn’t care for the kids properly and almost staged it so their actions would go against the contract so they cancelled a schedule but quickly rescheduled it right after…During their early debut days these people were monitoring them even if they were going to the convenience store across the company building. They are these type of people, I think people are very nice.

They worried about keeping in contact with anyone via Kakaotalk or Facetime on their iPads and what would happen if they were caught contacting anyone so they would erase whatever they had on their iPads after they were done using them. These kids lived memorizing their friends, teachers, and parents phone numbers.

The physical strain is obvious and the mental strain was too hard on them so they got hospital treatment but they force the kid who went to get treatment to attend their schedule and told their parents that if they don’t participate in the schedule they will ask for damage compensation. I heard this rom the parents themselves who said the manager has yelled those words to them.

In the article it mentioned that the members depended on their parents for hospital bills but that wasn’t the only thing they needed support with. They didn’t have any income so anything that was personal from their debut to now was provided by their parents via transfer of funds or use of the parents credit cards.

The parents had requested to talk to the company many times but the members assured their parents even while getting IV shots. They told them to believe in them and all they needed was to work hard on their music. These members never complained and worked hard on their activities.

[original credit to Hak Ssem’s twitter acount x]

trans. cr; nicole @ baptrans ; take out with full credit

source: baptrans + natarajahak

op note: sorry mods but could you accept this post instead? Thank you ^_^ Also, Manager Kang uploaded this on his instagram :(

Comments

[in-noctem.livejournal.com]

They worried about keeping in contact with anyone via Kakaotalk or Facetime on their iPads and what would happen if they were caught contacting anyone so they would erase whatever they had on their iPads after they were done using them. These kids lived memorizing their friends, teachers, and parents phone numbers.

Honestly this is just heartbreaking ;____; I can't imagine being so afraid of someone finding out I've been talking to my OWN PARENTS like ??? what the hell is wrong with this company

I'm so glad TS is being exposed by those closest to the group, and I also love that fans are doing their own investigations and found out that the cost of B.A.P's 1004 promos were much lesser than the cost TS said they spent. This line - they didn’t care for the kids properly and almost staged it so their actions would go against the contract - basically confirms they've been making shit it up to spin the story in their favour but no one is buying it.

[lovelyxbeauty.livejournal.com]

This is such a mess, I thought contracts had changed after the JYJ and Hangeng lawsuits but apparently not :/ I hope they win and I'm happy they have done this together as a group so they have a good support system.

[princetabi.livejournal.com]

i don't think anything will change as long as the penalties for unjust contracts stay the same and the public keeps supporting the kpop industry.

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Never mind not having a cell phone, even if the fan signings were at one of the member’s hometowns they wouldn’t let them see their parents for more than 10 minutes. Even though they obviously knew they had nothing scheduled, they wouldn’t let them see their parents who came from far away.
This is horrific, it's like an abusive relationship.And I'm in tears imagining all of them not even being able to freely talk to their parents, especially Zelo and Jongup, they were babies for god's sake.

Y'know, TS shot themselves int he foot.BAP were their main money maker, these embezzlement charges could take them down permanently.

[jesymphony.livejournal.com]

mte BAP were the rookies to watch in 2012 and they could have blown up big time. TS Ent dun messed up.

[happydirections.livejournal.com]

god, the amount of sadness and anger i feel over this.
it's insane they way they've been threated. and to think that they kept on smiling and performing for their fans (even when they were forced to)...

[adenar.livejournal.com]

It's always super telling when the people working close to a group - people on the agency's paycheck - come out and release statements and even small messages of support of the group instead. I hope the boys have been able to spend time with their family now, it sounds like everyone's in this together.

[hipployta.livejournal.com]

This is so horrible. The kids are so sweet and it's sad I donexpect the companies to act shady to a certain extent but this is just so far beyond the pale...where is their sense of common decency? Zelo and Jongup were still children at debut

[viakyusu.livejournal.com]

This is so sad, terrifying and heartbreaking. This a borderline abusive relationship, they have no life and company is sucking them dry. I hope TS wins and goes to a new company and slays!

[torontok.livejournal.com]

I think yo umean BAP* wins baby lol

[iluvkidnappers.livejournal.com]

this is somehow getting me angrier and sadder than when JYJ left. That situation was also difficult and unfair, but this is a whole other level of abuse.

I'm just really sad for the boys

[mlmello.livejournal.com]

I didn't expect thing to be bad to this extent. as people already said before, this is an abusive relationship and TS should be punished for this too. They were working with minors and should be responsible for their well being..

[turtles-tszx.livejournal.com]

This is so horrible like wtf ts, you dont expect to treat people like shit and blackmailing them to keep them quiet.

[chaneltini.livejournal.com]

TS...



This is absolute bullshit on TS' part. I really hope BAP do a number on them, but it probably won't happen, sadly.

[jackieee94.livejournal.com]

These poor kids the fact that they put up with this bullshit for 3 years. I really hope they win, get out of that company, and continue to make music. Zelo and Jongup T-T poor babies. I hope more people come forward and support B.A.P and reveal moreo of TS' dirty laundry.

[arysthaeniru.livejournal.com]

I am speechless. This is absolutely disgusting. The poor parents of these members...and my god, I just cannot imagine going to their hometowns to perform and not even getting a couple of hours off to go and see my parents and family.

Absolutely horrible. The worst part is how BAP reassured their parents that this was okay, when it clearly isn't. I'm just...absolutely horrified.

[hitsujiga.livejournal.com]

i mean we all knew bap was being mistreated from the start looking just at their insane schedules and comebacks just after debut.....but this T_T i hope they get out of this fast and unharmed. I MEAN ZELO AND JONGUP WERE FUCKING KIDS DONT TRY TO PLAY IT DOWN HERE TS!!! >8(

[e-bone (from livejournal.com)]

I sincerely hope all these lawsuits will encourage some actual legislation to be passed. How dare they treat these babies like this :(

[samfrack.livejournal.com]

Omg I started bawling reading this. The way they were treated, they were practically prisoners. How were they able to smile so much to their fans with all this going on? Just makes me love this group more and I hope things turn out well for them.

It's great to see so many people supporting them too. Raises the chance that TS' won't succeeded at smearing their name and spinning lies. From all these articles of how it went down BAP is definitely in the right from breaking ties with TS and it's sad that they had to wait this long to be able to try getting away.

[atopworld.livejournal.com]

I went to bed after reading it. I was so upset. Their parents paid for everything the company was supposed to pay them for. They were isolated away from people, scared to even use social media? Disturbing. Zelo and Jongup were kids....Zelo barely turned 18.... Just angers me all over again. I really want the best for them, this is sickening and completely inhumane.

I completely forget that Youngjae is quite young, too, he had just turned 18 two days before debut. Poor babies.

[keykibummie.livejournal.com]

This group has been abused by this company and its sickening to hear that they couldn't talk to their own parents normally throughout this horrible experience. I wish them the best through this.

[princetabi.livejournal.com]

this is really sad, although not entirely surprising. I'm sure BAP is just one of many rookie groups who are enduring this kind of abuse at the moment. Nothing will ever change as long as the law continues to allow these companies to get away with slave labor.

[swhyeon1991.livejournal.com]

Wait, wasn't Mgr Kang the one who pulled some shit on fans a while back? Or was it another manager?

[jjang-intae.livejournal.com]

Wait, what manager did what? Afaik, fans generally like Manager Kang and apparently he's really nice? :)

[asnindie.livejournal.com]

Wow TS really turned out to be a piece of shit company.

[hurtmybones.livejournal.com]

companies dgaf about these ppl's lives, kpop is full of underpaid, overworked and exploited idols and the fans don't care if it doesn't concern their groups :(

[pikapika217.livejournal.com]

This is so damn awful to read about! I feel for these boys. I also think about Secret and am reminded of Hyosung mentioning that she still has pain from their bad car accident. And to think I thought TS was a good company because Hana/Zinger got the time she needed to heal. FOR SHAME, TS!

[chelamasen.livejournal.com]

This is horrific omg. I hope they win the lawsuit!! So good of the teacher to come forward and back the boys up!

[lysblack.livejournal.com]

lord, it's even worse than i thought.