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The producers of SBS music show “Inkigayo” have announced that songs whose music videos are rated suitable only for viewers aged 19 years old and over will no longer be eligible to gain chart points based on video views.

The chart compilers announced that hits through YouTube clicks would only be counted in its SNS rankings if a song’s music videos were rated at least rated suitable for viewers aged 15 years old and over. It is thought that the justification for this decision is connected with the fact that that “Inkigayo” itself is rated suitable for viewers aged 15 years old and over.

The new ruling will almost certainly have an immediate impact on artists such as 4Minute star HyunA. The singer’s latest solo video, “Red,” has been given a “19” rating, and has over six million YouTube hits so far, none of which will be counted by “Inkigayo” chart compilers under the new ruling.

1. [+4,205, -79] Hyuna won't even be able to get into the rankings...

2. [+4,265, -230] Here's a solution: stop making music videos so sexually suggestive

3. [+3,474, -123] ㅋㅋㅋ Hilarious ㅋㅋㅋ Straight up 0 points ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+3,184, -829] Serves them right ㅋㅋㅋㅋ;;

5. [+439, -40] Am I the only one applauding this.. ㅋㅋ

6. [+391, -24] Good decision. I always thought it was wrong to have 19+ rated songs on a 15+ rated show. This is necessary.

7. [+354, -29] She's riding a banana for crying out loud, how could they not ban it...

8. [+231, -17] Finally something good done by SBS!

source: soompi, netizenbuzz, naver

Date: 2014-08-11 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theharleyquinn.livejournal.com
Honestly surprised that Red is rated 19+

Date: 2014-08-11 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
cause people can't take the awesomeness Hyuna is

Date: 2014-08-11 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
Hyuna might not be the best singer out there, but she has the IT factor (whatever that is) and she knows how to work what she has better than half of kpop groups around.

Date: 2014-08-11 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borapaipai.livejournal.com
I couldn't agree with you more.

Date: 2014-08-11 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
I'm not her biggest fan, I don't even listen to all of her songs, but I'm not stupid. She is awesome on stage, she knows how to get people's attention and she knows exactly what to do and when to do. It's what makes her stand out from all the kpop artists and what makes her stay on top. if she keeps this up, she can be as big, or bigger than Lee Hyori and reach a level in her career she'll be able to do whatever she wants. (cause you know, no matter what, she still IS under cube and has to kinda listen to them)

Date: 2014-08-11 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borapaipai.livejournal.com
I'm not her biggest fan either but so far I've loved all her solo activities until now, especially Red, the last one and Ice Cream, I love her mvs too because I like sexy concepts more than the cute ones. I also think she can be the next Lee Hyori or even better, she is full of charisma, she has something that most female idols don't have. Also during Red performances and its promotion she seems to be having more fun than ever haha and I love that.

Date: 2014-08-11 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theemii.livejournal.com
Can't mv with violence or guns get a 19+ rating too?

Date: 2014-08-11 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoppedclock321.livejournal.com
Yep, they definitely can. IIRC SJ's Spy got slapped with that rating because they had some giant drops of CGI blood falling in the MV.

Date: 2014-08-11 02:48 pm (UTC)
purpleglaceon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] purpleglaceon
I agree with this because it makes sense given the rating of the show itself. I also agree with netizen #2.

Date: 2014-08-11 02:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-08-11 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenhinata.livejournal.com
not only sexy mvs but mvs with violence (like Infinite's back) or alcohol/other mature themes will be affected too :/

Date: 2014-08-11 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalqueen.livejournal.com
but will it really? i was thinking about infinite, but it seems to me this ban happened with the 〜improper behaviour of slutty girl groups〜 in mind

Date: 2014-08-11 04:58 pm (UTC)
metafictionally: (hung balloons)
From: [personal profile] metafictionally
idk I don't like it. :\ imo if the song itself is deemed suitable for broadcast, and the choreography too, then the music video rating shouldn't have an impact on its ability to win on music shows. it's not like they're showing MVs on Inkigayo? they're showing live stages. making sure that nobody under 19 is watching 19+ rated music videos isn't Inkigayo's job, and what about all the views contributed by people who are actually over 19? if the problem is with the song, then change the song (as MOGEF does require people to do, often) but I don't think the video rating should have anything to do with it.

Date: 2014-08-11 07:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-08-11 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
mte. this seems like an attempt to gain public approval or sumamt

Date: 2014-08-12 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] letoutthewolf.livejournal.com
mte. only stuff that's actually broadcasted during the show should be taken into account for the ban (e.g. lyrics, costumes, dances, stage sets, etc) and not the mv, which isn't even shown (except during the rankings, during which they can just show the album cover or a non-explicit part of the mv)

Date: 2014-08-14 11:56 am (UTC)
metafictionally: (Default)
From: [personal profile] metafictionally
agreed

Date: 2014-08-12 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
the lyrics to the song have been controversial as well.

Date: 2014-08-14 11:55 am (UTC)
metafictionally: (Default)
From: [personal profile] metafictionally
yeah, but not because they're actually explicit, so that doesn't really have anything to do with it.

Date: 2014-08-14 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
meh, i disagree. hyuna's comeback always had some haters but i feel like this time's the strongest, exactly because of the lyrics. a lot of people were complaining about using a nursery rhyme to sing about how "delicious" she is, even though it was implicit. like it's not the first time idols have used nursery rhymes in their songs, but people are freaking out because kids are singing the nursery rhyme nowadays with hyuna's name in it.

another thing about music shows is that the whole point of it is the exposure - people see the performances on tv, look for the songs and eventually the music video - it's a giant advertisement for singers. to have a pg rated show showing performances with 19+ mv is kinda inappropriate and defeats the purpose.

Date: 2014-08-14 04:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] metafictionally
the thing that irritates me the most about this is that it really does seem like a way to punish female singers and groups who showcase their sexuality. like, the way that MOGEF gives 19+ ratings is already biased towards "sexy" girl groups, so this ban will probably affect them disproportionately. it discourages girl groups from attempting any kind of adult or sexy concept because they'll know they run the risk of getting a 19+ rating and thereby disqualifying themselves entirely from the running to be a #1 contender. like, preemptive strike for the people who think it's immoral that girls can be sexy?

idk I guess they're worried about young people (girls especially) watching 19+ MVs and... like, being corrupted?? or something, but I'm more worried about young girls continuing to be taught that their sexuality is shameful. like dgmw I'm not talking about MVs like Gain's Fxxk You, which deserves the 19+ rating. but like, why does Bloom get a 19+ and VIXX's Voodoo Doll doesn't? Sistar has to edit all the poledancing out of their MV but BTS gets to slam a girl around and that's cool? the double standard in how MOGEF applies their 19+ labels is already frustrating enough without it having an impact like this.

Date: 2014-08-14 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
meh... i am all for more concepts that are less so 19+, lord knows we have enough. i do agree with you that the 19+ ratings are disproportionate between guy groups and girl groups (although i feel like if male idol were to masturbate in his mv like gain did it'd be slammed with 19+ right away), but there is something dangerous about interchanging sexually exploiting idols versus shamelessly owning their sexuality - and i doubt most of these girl groups are willingly stripping themselves to showcase their sexuality, and it's more of the agencies making them do it to get exposure.

it really depends on the country and their moral standards i guess but the mogef's restriction is lot looser on violence than sex, and the issue is that the reason why girl groups are labeled 19+ more often is because more girl groups are using sexy concepts than boy groups - and if this change encourages girl groups to try more concepts other than stripping i am all for it. girl groups have been lacking in creativity lately.

Date: 2014-08-14 06:43 pm (UTC)
metafictionally: (i'll be your king)
From: [personal profile] metafictionally
I think we might disagree on a fundamental level abt the issues that this ban stems from. but regardless thanks for being polite n levelheaded!

Date: 2014-08-14 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempestdance.livejournal.com
meh no problem! i do enjoy having discussions on omona :)

Date: 2014-08-11 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
guess what, there's worst things in the real world happening right now, and you show it on prime time with no worries than a girl singing and showing up topless and hugging a monkey . But no, god lord forbids Hyuna to have a fun/sexy MV.

(this pisses me off in a way I can't really explain)
Edited Date: 2014-08-11 08:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-08-12 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pladpuss.livejournal.com
then video counts should not count altogether. Fucking ridiculous.

Date: 2014-08-12 03:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-08-13 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consequences.livejournal.com
"She's riding a banana for crying out loud, how could they not ban it..."

SHE'S RIDING A BANANA AND NOT A MAN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

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