They were so horribly out of shape on this entire goddamn tour - but Karma Butterfly and it's choreography give me life (even if that was halfassed too).
They really do, but I believe they've been working without a break for a long time now (please correct me if I'm wrong). I think it'd be better if they focused on Japan or on Korea instead of trying to be active in both countries at the same time, because it's not improving the music or the girls' performances.
I didn't watch the whole clip, but went to check Gee out after your comment and wow, that was just terrible - they looked like a bad cover group - the kind with people who know the moves but can't actually pull it off
That was such a terrible tour for their exit from Japan, the outfits were tackier than any outfit they've ever done which is quite a feat. The only worthy performance from a lacklustre album and tour was Karma Butterfly and they still half-assed the shit out of it.
I don't understand the fans that say they'd rather see the girls improvise and have fun than perfect choreography. I personally wouldn't pay them even for their fanservice when they don't actually give a single fuck to be there.
let's not get me started on tiffany, her fanservice, her performance, her singing even just her talking annoys me like nobody has ever annoyed me before. i'm baffled as to why SM keeps pushing her even more as she gives less and less fuck about the group.
Ugh SAME. Like I can't even listen to mrmr anymore, she sounds terrible in it. It's gotten go the point that just her tone is do irritating to me, like with that Ariana grande cover everyone was praising, I thought she sounded terrible.
Tiffany had always talked about how she wants to go solo (and now she apparently wants to act too lol), she def sees snsd as a stepping stone (but to be fair so do the other girls, although I feel Tiffany is the most ambitious)
The less members the happier she is tbh, if she could end Soshi to go full-time TTS and then solo, she def would. Are you talking about the two first Ariana cover or the one from two weeks ago? They're all terrible lbr but the last one was the absolute worst. She has absolutely no technique and with the last few batches of K-pop idol vocalist, she's outclassed by miles.
I was talking about the way, bc everyone was praising and she actually sounded SO nasal in it. Like with Ariana I can barely understand what she's saying, but at least her tone is pretty. Didn't even bother with right there.
Your last sentence reminded me of a comment someone made about selena gomez "She wants fame more than her talent warrants" Guess that applies to most idols
Tiffany is so over the top in everything that it's ridiculous. She is the definition of a try-hard -.-"
Every single time that Tiffany decides to do some ad-libs I legit cringe OTL It sounds like she's straining so hard to reach those notes or she sounds extremely nasal and it really irritates me >.<
For example, in "Lips" her ad-libs did absolutely nothing for me, if anything they were completely unnecessary especially with Jessica, Taeyeon and Seohyun doing their share of ad-libs but their technique was eons better than hers. I mean I guess she wants to show off how much she's improved, but I don't really think forcing yourself to sing in this kind of register means that you've actually improved vocally =/ I'd rather she stick to the lower notes instead of the higher notes because they are pretty much out of her range. If she keeps going at this level she might end up ruining her voice honestly and I don't think she would want that to happen.
Now she's basically singing majority of the lines in every SoShi song and I wouldn't really mind that if she was a better vocalist compared to the actual lead vocalists aka Taeyeon, Seohyun and Jessica, but she's not so SM really should stop pushing her so much because she sounds embarrassing ._.
Even Infinite isn't anymore. It makes me sad. I get that achieving that level of synchronisation is crazy hard and they probably don't have as much time to practise together anymore with everyone's individual activities. But I remember I just got into kpop and I was watching Music Bank, and they caught my eye precisely coz' they were so synchronised. I miss it.
Yea, I also miss the "99,99%" synchronization. It was probably the main reason I got into Infinite in the first place. When they released BTD I watched the MV out of curiosity and then checked out their live performances and it kind of blew my mind. Oh god, how time flies. Sungjong used to be a baby :(
ikr? reading the comments I'm relieved to see I'm not the only one who noticed the group's total lack of 'performance' in this tour. Tbh I didn't give a sh*t about this tour especially since I saw the first few performances I gave up on it all together. Other groups that have been on the scene for the same time or much longer time still have more energy than this- this is pathetic- SK's national girl group? I don't think so...
My sister and her friend went to the tour final, but both told me afterwards, that they regret paying for the tickets. x.x My sis and I went to SNSD's first Japan tour and I'm glad that I decided against flying back to Japan, to see them on this tour. Judging from the video, I didn't miss much! :X
The outfits for this tour were way better than their outfits on the last tour so that's a plus lol XD The choreo was also a bit better =/ But in terms of energy and them being in sync then I'd have to say no OTL At least the tour ends soon so hopefully they'll finally get a break >.
thier outfits were eons better. like the updated cheerleader and the dominatrix.
i really don't understand why people are complaining about their performance tho. like this is standard soshi, i just think they were exceptionally good for the first japan tour. the out of syncness has been a little ott but soshi going 110% has never been a thing
But it's sad that this has become their standard. And it hasn't been always like this. During igab promo their performances were really great. And you have Hyoyeon and seohyun who seem to be the only ones who give a shit.
Negl but the fancams I've seen from this tour and from tours in 2013 have made me not like the girls as much. The fancams from Hong Kong, I think, were really so bad ://///
unfortunately i have to agree w/ most of the comments here... i adore soshi & i'll do my best to defend them, but there is absolutely no defending such a lackluster, sloppy, & quite frankly awful tour.
& tippany SHUT UP YOUR "ADLIBS" & "WOOOOOO! YEAH!" SHIT GOT OLD REAL QUICK
i really want a kickass "final" tour & single, so that they can prove why they were/are sk's #1 girl group, & so that they can go out on a really awesome note, but most of them look 3000% done w/ the idol life. i really wish they could do like shinwa & do their own solo thing, then do reunion tours/singles/albums/etc, but it's not looking like that's ever gonna happen. =\
ugh jessi/tippany/taeyeon (ESP JESSI OMG) are pissing me off so much in that video, i'm pretty sure my cat could dance w/ more energy & enthusiasm than they're putting out... holy shit. they aren't EVEN trying, like at ALL. arghhhh that annoys me so much!
i'm pretty sure my cat could dance w/ more energy & enthusiasm than they're putting out
Like you, I adore SNSD, but I'm a dancer myself and I couldn't even finish watching this video, because...because...it was so embarrassing. Sica is my bias and she didn't even try...it makes me so sad! ;__;
And sadly fading out raather than going out with the bang they'd have deserved...
Exactly. SM is just milking a dying cow at this point? They should have debuted that new girlgroup recently and have SNSD go out quietlty... Instead of forcing awful performances on us.
My sister and her friend went to the tour final and they said that they had soooo much fun, BUT my sis also told me that SNSD looked like they weren't really enjoying being on stage anymore. She said it was NOTHING compared to SNSD's first tour in Japan. That was the first time, my sis and I saw SNSD live! Ahhhh~~ good memories! *_____*
Judging from the video (and from others I've seen), I'm glad that I decided against flying back to Japan to attend the tour final. :X
I'm happy to hear your sister and her friend had fun!
I think when the first Japan tour happened, the girls were still 'fresh' to touring and seemed very happy with/motivated about expending into Japan... but that was three years ago. They really need a good rest and alot of personal time because this isn't how they should be going out.
SNSD is so freaking busy and SM obviously doesn't think about giving them a break. I can understand EXO being busy, they're still a new group and with all those recent "scandals" going on, they need to work in keeping their fans/making new ones, but SNSD?! They're still the most-loved girlband in SK, right?! I'm sure, they wouldn't lose all their fans and their popularity, if they went on a short break, especially because the members wouldn't just suddenly "vanish" - Sica's show with Krystal is still going on, Sunny has a muscial, Yoona just got casted as the lead in a new drama,...
SM should watch - REALLY watch - videos like the one in this post and decide then, if they aren't doing more worse than good with not giving the girls a break!
What's surprising to me is that most of these comments insinuate that their performances are like this because the members just don't care about them? When I'm tired and run down as fuck, I don't care about anything, so that's not surprising. I'm really not convinced it's their fault.
They hardly had any tour dates when they started touring, but now, if you look at their tour schedule (especially for the 2nd Japan tour), it's fucking ridiculous.
Yes, I understand what you mean. I also think saying that the members just don't care about it anymore, is wrong. There are other groups - also inside of SM - which have been in the business longer and still have fun on stage/do their best.
Maybe the girls are really just over-worked. I'm a big fan of SNSD and to me it seems that the girls are constantly busy. Not only with touring, but also with photoshootings, radio shows, interviews, CMs, musiclas, dramas,... Idols might be good in handling stress, but there is a limit to everything!!! And no matter how much you love something, if you have to do it over and over again (in this case singing and dancing the same song and choreo every night), it might stop being enjoyable!
i think my only problem is sica bec there are times when she just really wont move? i think they've enjoyed themselves well compared to their last tour. "dame~! dame yo" is so damn funny. fany doesnt irritate me she just proves that they're actually singing live lol
tbh they slay when they do srs things like that last talk show they went and danced mr taxi, but for concerts w all the diff choreos there will always be times when they're suddenly out of sync but this is such a natural occurrence cos even they get mixed up @ korean stages. and if they do get choreos wrong and laugh, idk whether i'd feel annoyed or happy at the concert itself so /shrugs
only two best parts are kb n lips bc it's a step up from the typical songs they've been doing igab/the boys eras and 2010 were their best years and sm plEASE stop giving fany all the lines i love her n all but please she can't sing THAT well damn even sunny and yuri sound better than her most of the time these girls are tired af and they prolly are done with snsd and maybe all have boyfriends and different ambitions
i tried watching the dvd for this tour recently and urghhhhhh jfc it's painful to watch.
jessica's been half-assing choreo for a long time now, but i don't think she's done it to this extent before?? she doesn't even do the moves when she thinks the camera's not on her.
yeah tiffany's the worst dancer and she can be a tad irritating, but at least she tries 80% of the time? far more than jessica does lbr. i think ppl need to cut her some slack.
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Date: 2014-07-19 08:58 pm (UTC)I don't understand the fans that say they'd rather see the girls improvise and have fun than perfect choreography. I personally wouldn't pay them even for their fanservice when they don't actually give a single fuck to be there.
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Date: 2014-07-20 01:29 am (UTC)Tiffany had always talked about how she wants to go solo (and now she apparently wants to act too lol), she def sees snsd as a stepping stone (but to be fair so do the other girls, although I feel Tiffany is the most ambitious)
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Date: 2014-07-20 02:17 am (UTC)Are you talking about the two first Ariana cover or the one from two weeks ago? They're all terrible lbr but the last one was the absolute worst. She has absolutely no technique and with the last few batches of K-pop idol vocalist, she's outclassed by miles.
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Date: 2014-07-20 04:30 am (UTC)"She wants fame more than her talent warrants"
Guess that applies to most idols
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Date: 2014-07-20 11:36 pm (UTC)Every single time that Tiffany decides to do some ad-libs I legit cringe OTL It sounds like she's straining so hard to reach those notes or she sounds extremely nasal and it really irritates me >.<
For example, in "Lips" her ad-libs did absolutely nothing for me, if anything they were completely unnecessary especially with Jessica, Taeyeon and Seohyun doing their share of ad-libs but their technique was eons better than hers. I mean I guess she wants to show off how much she's improved, but I don't really think forcing yourself to sing in this kind of register means that you've actually improved vocally =/ I'd rather she stick to the lower notes instead of the higher notes because they are pretty much out of her range. If she keeps going at this level she might end up ruining her voice honestly and I don't think she would want that to happen.
Now she's basically singing majority of the lines in every SoShi song and I wouldn't really mind that if she was a better vocalist compared to the actual lead vocalists aka Taeyeon, Seohyun and Jessica, but she's not so SM really should stop pushing her so much because she sounds embarrassing ._.
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Date: 2014-07-19 10:25 pm (UTC)they used be in sync (ok not on a crazy level like infinite) but this is just bad
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Date: 2014-07-20 10:31 am (UTC)My sis and I went to SNSD's first Japan tour and I'm glad that I decided against flying back to Japan, to see them on this tour. Judging from the video, I didn't miss much! :X
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Date: 2014-07-20 03:04 am (UTC)i really don't understand why people are complaining about their performance tho. like this is standard soshi, i just think they were exceptionally good for the first japan tour. the out of syncness has been a little ott but soshi going 110% has never been a thing
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Date: 2014-07-20 05:39 am (UTC)& tippany SHUT UP YOUR "ADLIBS" & "WOOOOOO! YEAH!" SHIT GOT OLD REAL QUICK
i really want a kickass "final" tour & single, so that they can prove why they were/are sk's #1 girl group, & so that they can go out on a really awesome note, but most of them look 3000% done w/ the idol life. i really wish they could do like shinwa & do their own solo thing, then do reunion tours/singles/albums/etc, but it's not looking like that's ever gonna happen. =\
ugh jessi/tippany/taeyeon (ESP JESSI OMG) are pissing me off so much in that video, i'm pretty sure my cat could dance w/ more energy & enthusiasm than they're putting out... holy shit. they aren't EVEN trying, like at ALL. arghhhh that annoys me so much!
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Date: 2014-07-20 10:36 am (UTC)Like you, I adore SNSD, but I'm a dancer myself and I couldn't even finish watching this video, because...because...it was so embarrassing. Sica is my bias and she didn't even try...it makes me so sad! ;__;
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Date: 2014-07-20 01:29 pm (UTC)Exactly. SM is just milking a dying cow at this point? They should have debuted that new girlgroup recently and have SNSD go out quietlty... Instead of forcing awful performances on us.
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Date: 2014-07-20 09:59 am (UTC)Judging from the video (and from others I've seen), I'm glad that I decided against flying back to Japan to attend the tour final. :X
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Date: 2014-07-20 01:31 pm (UTC)I think when the first Japan tour happened, the girls were still 'fresh' to touring and seemed very happy with/motivated about expending into Japan... but that was three years ago. They really need a good rest and alot of personal time because this isn't how they should be going out.
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Date: 2014-07-20 02:33 pm (UTC)SNSD is so freaking busy and SM obviously doesn't think about giving them a break. I can understand EXO being busy, they're still a new group and with all those recent "scandals" going on, they need to work in keeping their fans/making new ones, but SNSD?! They're still the most-loved girlband in SK, right?! I'm sure, they wouldn't lose all their fans and their popularity, if they went on a short break, especially because the members wouldn't just suddenly "vanish" - Sica's show with Krystal is still going on, Sunny has a muscial, Yoona just got casted as the lead in a new drama,...
SM should watch - REALLY watch - videos like the one in this post and decide then, if they aren't doing more worse than good with not giving the girls a break!
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Date: 2014-07-20 11:24 pm (UTC)They hardly had any tour dates when they started touring, but now, if you look at their tour schedule (especially for the 2nd Japan tour), it's fucking ridiculous.
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Date: 2014-07-21 07:36 am (UTC)I also think saying that the members just don't care about it anymore, is wrong. There are other groups - also inside of SM - which have been in the business longer and still have fun on stage/do their best.
Maybe the girls are really just over-worked. I'm a big fan of SNSD and to me it seems that the girls are constantly busy. Not only with touring, but also with photoshootings, radio shows, interviews, CMs, musiclas, dramas,...
Idols might be good in handling stress, but there is a limit to everything!!! And no matter how much you love something, if you have to do it over and over again (in this case singing and dancing the same song and choreo every night), it might stop being enjoyable!
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Date: 2014-07-20 01:33 pm (UTC)tbh they slay when they do srs things like that last talk show they went and danced mr taxi, but for concerts w all the diff choreos there will always be times when they're suddenly out of sync but this is such a natural occurrence cos even they get mixed up @ korean stages. and if they do get choreos wrong and laugh, idk whether i'd feel annoyed or happy at the concert itself so /shrugs
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Date: 2014-07-23 12:43 am (UTC)igab/the boys eras and 2010 were their best years
and sm plEASE stop giving fany all the lines i love her n all but please she can't sing THAT well damn even sunny and yuri sound better than her most of the time
these girls are tired af and they prolly are done with snsd and maybe all have boyfriends and different ambitions
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Date: 2015-02-21 05:13 pm (UTC)jessica's been half-assing choreo for a long time now, but i don't think she's done it to this extent before?? she doesn't even do the moves when she thinks the camera's not on her.
yeah tiffany's the worst dancer and she can be a tad irritating, but at least she tries 80% of the time? far more than jessica does lbr. i think ppl need to cut her some slack.