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By Park Jin-hai

EXO, SHINee, Girls Generation, f(x), VIXX, Teen Top and Justin Bieber. Looking at the profile of Shin Hyuk, 28, founder and CEO of Joombas Music Group, one might wonder how this young producer could make his musical mark both in Korea and the U.S. in less than 10 years.

Best known for EXO's "Growl" ― a blend of rap, R&B melody and pop hooks ― written by his team of producers, the Korean producer has much credit for the boy band to gain international fame. The Billboard referred “Growl” as the crown jewel and it sold over a million copies in 2013 alone. His other hits include SHINee's "Dream Girl" and Teen Top's "Supa Love."

"When I produce K-pop, I don’t only focus on the music," he said. "I consider the possibilities of the artist’s choreography and visual concepts. Also, I have to show the artist’s full capabilities within 3 minutes of a TV broadcast, so I focus all my production and vocal production centered around that aspect."

Although Shin is widely known as one of the most sought-after producers in the K-pop industry, his musical talent was first acknowledged in the U.S. Since he left for the U.S. in 2005 to study producing at Berklee College of Music, he has teamed up with American artist Sean Hamilton and spent many years peddling their demos.

"My childhood dream was becoming the first Korean to create songs which enter the Billboard charts, and subsequently, enrolled in Berklee College of Music," he said. “Almost every night when Sean came from his work, we used to make music at my place until dawn,” he recalled.

The duo finally made it big. One of their songs "One Less Lonely Girl" was noticed by a Def Jam Recordings' A&R team and Canadian singer Justin Bieber sang the song which debuted 16th on the US Billboard top 100 chart in 2009. The mid-tempo R&B/Pop single had more than 110,000 downloads in its first week.

"The first k-pop artist I worked with was Teen Top. Their label had heard Justin Bieber's song and asked if could produce for Teen Top. After I had produced 'Supa Luv' for Teen Top, SM Entertainment contacted me and since then, I have been producing heavily in the K-pop market."

He says that K-pop is especially strong in providing quality music videos and diversified concepts through them. "K-pop music tends to spend exorbitant budgets on music videos and tries a differing concept every time. I think that is why it succeeded in securing so many fans overseas through Youtube as well as spreading rapidly throughout the world," he said.

Shin says K-pop has maximized visual effects of music to its advantage. “When the song I wrote comes in the smartly choreographed music videos, I go completely over the top. Compared with the U.S. where a single is promoted for almost six months, K-pop sees a new song every month. So I could check out the audience feedbacks faster, that is another plus point.”

In 2012, he founded a music label Joombas Music Group, headquartered in Hollywood, California. It now has 13 U.S.-based producers working under the label. It is also training singers ahead of their debuts.

As a musician working in the U.S., Shin says he is feeling the direct effect of "Gangnam Style" phenomenon. "Since Psy's global hit song, famous producers and songwriters that had not shown any interest in K-pop before have been contacting me asking if they could work on K-pop projects together."

"When I was invited to VIXX's show held in LA a few months ago, I noticed that 90 percent of the audience was non-Korean, including 40 percent of white Americans. That experience made me realize K-pop's elevated status within the states."

However, he warns of the K-pop saturated local music scenes and their typical music sound. "It is difficult for the public to distinguish who is who now," he said. "Also, I think the music companies are seeking provocative content to stand out rather than great musical content. It is prohibiting growth and the music scene ends up feeling stagnant."

Asked about his future plans, he said that he would like to create music content that is impeccable when compared to music from advanced music markets such as the U.S. or the U.K. “I feel that the current K-pop idol music market has become stagnant. I would like to elevate K-pop’s place in the world music business, by working as a bridge connecting western musicians and K-pop artists.”

source: koreatimes

well, there must be something to it if white ppl like it, right? lol

Date: 2014-03-30 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Oh honey like the Pop scene in the West isn't saturated by crappy club music. It's so difficult to distinguish recent artists everywhere since the same producers are doing similar stuff. Goes for everyone imo.

Date: 2014-03-30 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achan123.livejournal.com
ia completely
i dislike club music ALOT so kpop is pretty suited to me

i guess pop music is just pop at the end of the day. easy to digest and disposable

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Date: 2014-03-30 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-erotomanic.livejournal.com
he's cute and i like the songs he's produced for kpop groups, but he makes weird comments in this article. i'll probably just let his music speak for themselves.

Date: 2014-03-30 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetcherrytree.livejournal.com
OP's comment is so real tho, the minute i saw the comment about white americans i was like 'argh we must learn to stop seeking white approvaaallll!!'

Date: 2014-03-30 08:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-03-31 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edanz-castle.livejournal.com
LOL But aren't they ones who will bring in the real money?

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Date: 2014-03-30 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manavolemoname.livejournal.com
I always like his work. I think he is a talented music producer and look forward to seeing what else hes got coming out.

"Also, I think the music companies are seeking provocative content to stand out rather than great musical content. It is prohibiting growth and the music scene ends up feeling stagnant."

I think this is a good point. It feels like every new act has to have some sort of gimmick to get attention. Like its better to be known as the alien vampire wolf zombie frankensteins than nothing. Though kpop is almost half about the visual anyway. That makes it fun though, because its all about the whole package and entertainment value. Companies need to keep in mind that for longevity's sake, making quality music is important to be recognized beyond just the hardcore kpop fans or thirsty fan girls.

Date: 2014-03-30 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
i really hope as kpop grows older with newer generations of groups it goes into the direction of dropping the gimmicks and focusing on the quality of music. we have seen that some now do focus more on actually putting together groups with vocal abilities. i agree with you, that quality music is important on many levels. if they plan to continue to grow the niche to nab new fans who aren't thirsty fan girls, you got to give them something to support.

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Date: 2014-03-31 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikayla.livejournal.com
i was just about to quote this exact two sentences from the article. ia!

Date: 2014-03-30 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missingmisnomer.livejournal.com
hmm, i like all the k pop songs mentioned here that he's worked on. he's clearly a musical genius but i'm going to avoid reading stuff about him because he seems kinda obnoxious here... and that comment about white people is so weird.

but anyway i'm still jamming to growl like every single day so props to him for that!

Date: 2014-03-30 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-bone (from livejournal.com)
So an entire 50% non Korean/White demographic not even acknowledged. What an off putting piece. Seriously way to alienate POC fans before any kpop group has really made it in the US. He even came off as dismissive of americans of Korean descent with direct links to Korea. SMH.

"elevated status" LMAO ok gurl.

NGTFT

Date: 2014-03-30 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
I'm not even reading this article because it's going to be some pretentious bullshit

Instead I'm here to ask OP about their gif...why do I think that is Jjong...and more importantly why do I recognize his waist and naked body? Shinee has been babies to me always...I feel disturbed

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Date: 2014-03-30 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
well this is an interesting turn of events:

'As a musician working in the U.S., Shin says he is feeling the direct effect of "Gangnam Style" phenomenon. "Since Psy's global hit song, famous producers and songwriters that had not shown any interest in K-pop before have been contacting me asking if they could work on K-pop projects together."'

a "new" market opens up which was ignored before by these famous producers and songwriters, and now they want in.$$$

he's cute...but a bit dim. he could have stopped at "I noticed that 90 percent of the audience was non-Korean" to show that KPop has reached an audience that goes beyond being Korean and Korea itself. that white validation thing, which is sadly a foundation into that whitewashing media propaganda and subconsciously ingrained into many, needs to go away.

Date: 2014-03-31 11:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-03-30 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princetabi.livejournal.com
lol kpop will never make it into the mainstream of the U.S. music scene. American people are not used to language barriers, producers and agencies ignore the fact that a lot of kpop fans are not white or Korean, and there are way too many culturally insensitive idols who say stupid shit on a weekly basis.

Date: 2014-03-30 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cxxl.livejournal.com
I had this whole comment about chasing the white dollar written up, but nevermind. Messy comment, but there is truth in it. It does totally erase Non-Korean poc fans, but lets be honest if you want to cross into the mainstream in the US you want white people on your side.
I agree with almost everything he said...or all of it...I don't know. He really sure of himself though, so I can't be mad at him for that.
Small edit: Doesn't mean it will happen, for many reasons, but most acts that want to get mainstream appeal have to sell to a whiter market.
Edited Date: 2014-03-30 11:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-03-31 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anconeous.livejournal.com
He's a cutie that makes songs that I like. Dunno about his views in any subject but he can just continue doing his thing and stop doing interviews.

Date: 2014-03-31 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donttakethebait.livejournal.com
i like the songs hes done but rme at "I noticed that 90 percent of the audience was non-Korean, including 40 percent of white Americans" ofc out of the pretty big mixture of ppl that were at the showcase thats all u want to mention bye @ u.

Date: 2014-03-31 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edanz-castle.livejournal.com
Yes it's true trends start with POC and then taken to white america. But when that happens,doesn't it become something even bigger than what it was? My logic was only, once the white people come in, more money/success is expected to be made.

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Date: 2014-03-31 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atopworld.livejournal.com
Yes because if Kpop is acknowledged by some white people, that means it's elevated across the entire country. Word.

What about that other 50%.....?

Date: 2014-03-31 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
lawl when hipsters start liking kpop ironically it's gonna be a thing. as it is, kpop isn't one of those things you can be ironic about imo.

i'd prefer it if people treated kpop like its own market that doesn't need to crossover to become successful. i really don't care to see idols in western news or tv shows to promote. if enough non-koreans get into it despite the language barrier it doesn't need to be understood by the entire culture for it to be validated. in a way, it's like being into alternative/indie/scene/metal music. treat it like a subculture but don't try to make it part of the fold. once it starts to become too self-aware i'm just gonna be like... nah. it's already kind of annoying reading shit about how awesome the hallyu is. just make it so it's easier for the idols to come here to do concerts every once in awhile so they can make money. i hope that makes sense idk because i've been saying this for years but in different ways

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Date: 2014-03-31 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjspice.livejournal.com
Erm...does he realize that it's pretty much a fad? Even Jpop was popular in the US at one point but no one cares about it now. :/

Date: 2014-03-31 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manavolemoname.livejournal.com
I think there are many factors that attribute to people's disinterest in Jpop... IMO, mainly being that in recent years its been nothing but shit AKB related acts dominating. If you aren't into that sort of thing than its kind of a loss. Plus the Japanese music market has been taking losses the past couple of years as well. Also, Japan refuses to get with the whole digital release thing. I can't not freaking stand Avex and their refusal to release full versions of their videos, and they constantly remove anything on youtube that might have a glimpse of one of their artists in it. Japan is taking the exact opposite tactic on their pop market from Korea. Instead of trying to spread their music ala hallyu style, they have really closed themselves off.

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Date: 2014-04-01 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amandaplan.livejournal.com
i was trying to resist exo which was kind of easy with wolf but when GROWL came out I just had to stan them and had that song on replay. one of my all time fave kpo songs, the song is so good i'm still not tired of it. Growl is a masterpiece.

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