Ruh Roh. Was Spica's You Don't Love Me Plagiarised? #Hyorisisc'mon

[asnindie.livejournal.com]

Clairy Browne & the Bangin' Rackettes- Love Letter:

For Comparison:

Spica's You Don't Love Me:

Source: Clairy Browne and the Banging Rackettes, b2ment

I ain't accusing Hyori but I wanted to post to see what you think Omona. I personally feel it's more about similarity in genre, but if Netizens get wind of this, Hyori hold on to those sails of yours because Netizen Iceburg coming for you

Comments

[toshi830.livejournal.com]

the song and mv doesn't seem that close together, I think it's just the same genre so it sounds similar

[ashiva.livejournal.com]

Just same genre.

[e-bone (from livejournal.com)]

Rhythm section/time sig is eerily similar (as it's a common one for early 60s R&B/rock). But the melodies seem different enough. Hyori should be aight.

[mad-nux.livejournal.com]

nope

[fallingstarryuu.livejournal.com]

some of the choreo points in ydlm can be seen in the original video tho and it's similar enough

[maishi-obuki.livejournal.com]

all the choreo for both MVs are directly from every choreo in this type of music.
Like none of it was new. the 50s and 60s had it for like every female group.

[parkjsun.livejournal.com]

Lmao this reach.

OP, where are these accusations coming from?

[aleexnews.livejournal.com]

the netizen that already pointed this out in a SPICA news article is reaching just like this post. not even close

[yumett.livejournal.com]

nah~ similarity in choreo and genre in general yeah but song wise we can't talk about actual plagiagism here, can we? if so then i'd bring B.A.P's 1004 and OneRepublic's Counting Stars idk.

[pladpuss.livejournal.com]

Uh quite a bit of a stretch there just the same kind of genre, the Love Letter song has bit more jazz to it the bass, and sax is more prominent.

[hyde-my-dreams.livejournal.com]

You could say the same for Duffy's 'Mercy' and Amy Winehouse's 'Rehab' in addition to this 'Love Letter'... but they're all different songs. Just the same kind of genre. Too many differences, but similar tempos and backing.

[k0dama.livejournal.com]

they're not related at all. netizens going 'naners again.

[10135.livejournal.com]

Nope.

[4minutesluts.livejournal.com]

unless she's got some shia labeouf shit going on, hyori is the last person in kpop that's going to plagiarise anything

[fireandbread.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure her 4th album had a huge plagiarism scandal though lol.

[parkjsun.livejournal.com]

That's the point. Hyori would be the last person to plagiarize after her producer f'd up by plagiarizing half of her album. She knows the repercussions first hand.

[fireandbread.livejournal.com]

Ah gotcha

[4minutesluts.livejournal.com]

that is what i was referring to, yes

[babyonions.livejournal.com]

I don't hear/see it, but netizens loved to be pressed, leave Spica alone!!!!!

[rightclick5ave.livejournal.com]

I'm like the hugest Spica stan and came in ready to defend but the overhead shot at 2:30... is that a common type of scene because :|

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

Pretty much all of the 60/70s videos look the same imo so I won't be surprised if there's a shot like that.

[ixion124.livejournal.com]

reaching, not even that close

OP why did you post this

[phililen3.livejournal.com]

LEAVE HYORI ALONE!!!

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

OP r u trolling? Because neither of those songs is like each other.

[torontok.livejournal.com]

I played this for someone and have heard comparisos to 'Aint No Other Man' and 'Meryc'so its definitely just a genre thing

[a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the songs sound a bit similar, but I'm pretty sure it's just the genre.

[ayumikoshiro.livejournal.com]

I see what Netizen 4 is saying kinda
4. [+31, -16] There are a number of reasons they don't get popular... They don't keep up with the trends and make awkward attempts at gimmicks that others have already tried. The retro trend has already passed and they're only just doing it now? Their music video also has plenty of skin exposure, none of which is actually sexy or seductive... The main vocalist also has a vocal color that isn't appealing to everyone. There's nothing cute or sexy about them, they don't have a face of the group, their song is below average...

They have a vocal sound that is nothing like what's popular in S.Korea

[fireandbread.livejournal.com]

Yeah same

[lilybeth84.livejournal.com]

Well, they are similar songs. I wouldn't call it a reach to say that it could be considered along the lines of unintentional plagiarism because the algorithmic patterns of the song are the same as are many of the chord changes. The style of the video is really similar, the choreography overlaps somewhat, so yeah, as a package I wouldn't say its far off. But the melody is different enough that she should be safe.

People should be aware we don't exist in a musical vacuum and many artists and songs that we now consider great have been accused of plagiarizing, including The Beatles.

And honestly if we are going to say that You Don't Love Me plagiarizes Love letter, than Love Letter to some extent plagiarizes Amy Winehouse. That sax is right out of You Know I'm No Good, and I'm sure Amy Winehouse got it from somewhere else.

Korea is extremely sensitive to accusations of plagiarism. American/British artists are accused all the time of plagiarism but the public doesn't react in the same way. This article, while translated and from one of the major newspapers in Korea, has some interesting thoughts on K-pop and plagiarism.

“Why do you think the United States is leading the global pop music industry?” the music producer asked. “I think it’s because the U.S. market provides an environment where various kinds of music co-exist and advance altogether — regardless of popularity in the mainstream. Unfortunately, however, this is never the case in Korea."

Citing the U.S. Billboard Chart that has many independent sub-charts by genres, including pop, country, rock, R&B, hip-hop, rap, dance, electronic, Latin and gospel among others, Yeom said balanced growth of all genres are crucial for the consistent advancement of K-pop. Other core assets for the improvement include fresh inspiration and comprehensive knowledge about music, he added.

“Let’s look inward,” he said. “Major K-pop charts don’t allow musical diversity in their operating structure. Unlike Billboard, they don’t have sub-charts by genres, which mean various songs in genres are put to the test in one universal chart and only a couple of them are recognized as winners and the others are thrown away... Winners lead the market trend, while losers are forgotten. In this environment, musicians are becoming increasingly sensitive to the trend. They are also pressured to churn out new songs to catch up with fast-changing trends in the market and also to meet expectations of trend-sensitive listeners. In fact, they are working without room to get fresh inspiration and new musical knowledge. How do you think they are able to create new songs without these? The answer is simple.”

Korea Times Article (https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2013/12/386_147642.html)