[identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid

20131106_seoulbeats_fiestar1

Lindsay of SeoulBeats writes:

As far as rookie girl groups go, Fiestar is firmly in the middle of the road. They’ve had decent success especially with their debut, but they haven’t had a hit to rocket them to stardom either. When you look at what each member of the group has to offer individually it seems that the content given to them by the company is the issue, not their talent. Containing members form Korea, China, and the USA, Fiestar is not only diverse but also multitalented. Member Cao Lu was a solo singer originally in China and rapper Yezi has already made a name for herself in the underground scene with her mix-tape releases. When these factors are considered, it seems a shame that the ladies of Fiestar continue to be given sub-par material like “I Don’t Know.”

It isn’t that “I Don’t Know” is any worse than any other cutesy K-pop single, but it certainly falls near the bottom of the list in regards to both song and MV. It’s got a decent hook, but the rest of the song is boring in comparison. Similarly with the MV, the drama scenes are entertaining at least, but the “dance” sequences aren’t particularly engaging. But what’s worse than dooming this potentially talented girl-group to mediocrity is the fact that “I Don’t Know” sports a plot line and lyrics that are insulting to both men and women alike.

What at first seems like a nice, innocent, romantic MV turns out to be nothing but a cheap ploy to portray young women as clueless and young men as breast-obsessed idiots. Possibly my biggest complaint with this MV was how misleading the beginning was. It seemed like for once the nerdy guy was going to get the cute girl and that she was actually going to share his interests in figurines, etc. Likewise, I felt betrayed when the focus suddenly shifted to the girl’s breasts and the pleasant atmosphere of the room became creepy.

It wasn’t even a subtle switch, either. The guy’s face took on an animalistic expression and the toys in the room joined him in objectifying the young woman just because she had removed her cardigan. Not to mention the blatant sexual innuendo portrayed by the Pinocchio puppet’s red nose elongating at the sight of her. Overall, the symbolism and tone created by these images was an unsavory one to say the least. At least the girl manages to defend herself instead of falling prey to the unfortunate plot line of submitting to a jerk for no good reason.

But it wasn’t just the over-sexualization that was unsettling, it was that combined with the infantile lyrics and toy-filled dance scenes that made the MV unpleasant. Not only that, but making normal young men out to be perverts is also unpleasant. As the lyrics express, it is natural to be inexperienced with things like sexual attraction when you haven’t dated before, but to treat young women like oblivious children and to treat young men like sexual predators, no matter how average they may be, simply perpetuates dangerous gender stereotypes.

Obviously, if I allowed every gender stereotype in K-pop to bother me I’d never be able to watch it, but for some reason this particular MV struck a more negative tone for me than usual. Something about the childishly cute song and lyrics combined with the clearly adult plot line simply rubbed me the wrong way. Especially since the ending scene has the male character watching the girl on the TV screen with an expression of “if I can’t have the real thing, I’ll just transfer my creepy stare to a virtual one.” What kind of message is that to send to young men that get rejected.

In general, there are far more issues with this MV conceptually than in terms of videography. Outside of the unfortunate plot line I can’t say there are any huge flaws other than a lack of originality. Seeing a girl group wear tiny skirts and sing a cute song surrounded by childish props is nothing unique in K-pop and, in this case, is certainly a waste of Fiestar’s talents. I hope that their next promotion uses their diverse members to bring something exciting to the table, instead of falling into the K-pop marketing trap of pandering to an audience looking for nothing more than big-eyed, childish women. Overall MV rating: 2/5



Sources: seoulbeats | loen



idk how to tag this...we don't have an op/ed or sexism tag so idk

Date: 2013-11-13 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
dang they went in

i mean it's a boring and overused concept but i don't see how they "continue" to be given crappy stuff. vista was mind blowingly awesome and we can't stop was really good.

Date: 2013-11-13 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yellowesque.livejournal.com
seoulbeats and their desperate attempts at ~clever~ headlines drive me NUTS

Date: 2013-11-13 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flumes.livejournal.com
hey

i would think of sth genius like that
Edited Date: 2013-11-13 06:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-13 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flumes.livejournal.com
evrything about them is unfortunate

Date: 2013-11-13 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
wicked is a great song and their a-ha series is hilarious

sorry about your chronic hateritis

Date: 2013-11-13 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flumes.livejournal.com
literally who are you

Date: 2013-11-13 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
please try not to be so ignorant about Respected Community Members

Date: 2013-11-13 07:29 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-13 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
I find this ironic considering your addiction to soshihaterade bro

Date: 2013-11-13 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
thats necessary for the safety of the universe to balance out the literal trillions of deluded fangirls who think they're the greatest thing since bach

Date: 2013-11-13 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
tocatta is cool and all but it ain't no gee gee gee gee baby baby~

it's ok, I kinda exist to counterbalance the uee worship and community hate towards raina

what a lonely existence

Date: 2013-11-13 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
i am a card carrying uee hater on the level of silky johnson, that i will not deny

Date: 2013-11-13 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allegsiseu.livejournal.com
wait, this user hates soshi?????

Date: 2013-11-13 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
his spite is even greater than mine for shinee/block b

that is saying something

Date: 2013-11-13 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allegsiseu.livejournal.com
praying he will see the nine goddesses' light

praying you will see bbc's light but you do hate shinee, so maybe it's balanced and you're normal

Date: 2013-11-13 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
unlikely, every time I see zico I kinda wanna take a sledgehammer and go to town

Date: 2013-11-13 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
snsd haven't released a good song since 2011, and sones' continued worship of them in light of that is just annoying

zico is a good rapper & producer but none of the block b songs i've heard have been... likable
Edited Date: 2013-11-13 08:45 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-13 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allegsiseu.livejournal.com
but igab and galaxy supernova came out this year

and none???? if you already heard the title tracks then i recommend: no joke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKoumID19xo), lol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3k1iXbCg7c), and burn out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bcltb_SBy0)

Date: 2013-11-13 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
i got a boy is one of the worst songs that has ever been written, galaxy supernova is ok but ruined by that terrible english line, and the block b songs are decent but not rly great enough to make me cross the threshold of being into a boy group

Date: 2013-11-13 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allegsiseu.livejournal.com
i'm not really into boy groups either, besides you already acknowledged that zico is talented /kanyeshrug

and it's totally ok for dudes to like male groups btw

Date: 2013-11-13 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
it is, but as a straight guy they're lacking like 50% of the appeal that girl groups have (with the exception of top, who i would totally bone)

Date: 2013-11-13 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shintotchi.livejournal.com
Sorry but I liked this song. I thought the lyrics were tongue in cheek honestly. As if the girl doesn't know. The way the lyrics are worded she seems to clearly know what's on the guy's mind, but she's just not interested. As for the mv, I found and continue to find it amusing. Sure if I watched numerous mvs where this was the sole theme, I might get annoyed, but as it is I only indulge in a handful of girl groups and this concept isn't overused for me. Sorry Seoulbeats, but I think you're looking at this too hard.

Date: 2013-11-13 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com
ia i thought it was supposed to be sarcasm considering the guy got beat up in two scenes like the girl knew what he was doing and wasn't as stupid as he thought

honestly outside of this video i don't see this concept as often as the author claims it is used

Date: 2013-11-13 07:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
Especially since the ending scene has the male character watching the girl on the TV screen with an expression of “if I can’t have the real thing, I’ll just transfer my creepy stare to a virtual one.” What kind of message is that to send to young men that get rejected.

Become a hikikkomori I guess.

Date: 2013-11-13 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justkyhdding.livejournal.com
I love Yezi by I'm gonna need more from this group.

btw OP it's Seoulbeats with an 'e'

Date: 2013-11-13 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekkedness.livejournal.com
oooh i like this song.
i feel like that girl in the video very often, yep that's basically my life.

Date: 2013-11-13 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantaesticbaby.livejournal.com
I agree so much. They deserve better than that shit.

Date: 2013-11-13 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snoaz.livejournal.com
Good article. Maybe I need to read more from this site.

Date: 2013-11-13 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martha-sal.livejournal.com
"Seeing a girl group wear tiny skirts and sing a cute song surrounded by childish props"

I think this is terribly disturbing and I'm pretty sure most kpop girl groups have done this concept, it's like a bait for the pedo ajusshis to listen to their music. It's quite unfortunate that stuff like this is considered cute and innocent but a song with even remotely sexual lyrics/video gets banned.

Date: 2013-11-13 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxpopopxx.livejournal.com
I actually really the song and I thought the mv was actually kinda funny ? Don't know who they but brb looking up their other songs...

Date: 2013-11-13 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaeslurpy.livejournal.com
i thought the song was cute. not my favorite but still cute.

Date: 2013-11-13 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
Yeah same, but at least this song and dance are catchy and fun unlike a certain moon/ice cream related group...

So I only watched the MV once, cringed, then started doing the hand thing.

Date: 2013-11-13 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uguukawaii.livejournal.com
i mean i liked it but this was my problem with the lyrics. the idea that ahjussis are gonna be turned on by their sexual confusion and inexperience is so nast to me but i love yezis verse and im just waiting for them to put out something hot. idk how loen has always given sunny hill the best stuff but fiestar get pretty shitty material + shinsadong tiger didnt really help

Date: 2013-11-18 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justkyhdding.livejournal.com
Sunny HIll compose and write a lot of their own songs, butloen def looks after them -- they didn't poach them from nega for nothing

Date: 2013-11-13 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimishim.livejournal.com
That bit with Pinocchio's nose growing when she takes her sweater off disturbs me deepy

Date: 2013-11-14 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 10135.livejournal.com
I like this song, but just like a lot of other kpop songs/videos, it's problematic.

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