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As DBSK dispute continues downhill, the music industry has begun supervising their own. The possibility of a 2nd or 3rd DBSK dispute is causing a crisis in the music industry.
Seeing the members they once created and nurtured to be top Asian singers, now fighting with their company is a bitter sight to see for the middle management executives. However, as Xiah Junsu and other members have revealed the unjust contract conditions, some are saying that this is the time to self-exam and improve. How is the contract conditions for groups other than DBSK.

Super Junior, Girl's Generation, longest contract is 13 years

Other idol groups in SM entertainment is being targeted first. It was reported that for Super Junior, Girl's Generation, and Shinee, contracts are different for each members but the contract periods are anywhere from 5 years to 13 years.

Because some members of Super Junior and Girl's Generation have different debut years, their contract is individual.
Before Kangin became a member of Super Junior, he was a VJ for a entertainment news program. Before the release of Girl's generation album in 2007, member Sooyoung made debut in a duo 'Route Oh" in 2002 under SM Japan so she signed a contract before the other members. Because the contracts are individual, earning distributions and schedule conditions are different for each member.

One Super Junior member spoke with IS on the phone stating, "even if I want to move to another company, the remaining terms of the contract and penalty for breaching the contract is far beyond than people imagine. Because we have a lot of members in our team, we have to divide our earnings into 1/13, so we do not make much money. Up until recently, SM tried to make it our responsibility to pay for our stylist but a senior member took courage and corrected it. There are feelings in the company that if you do something that the company doesn't like, it is only your loss so even if we have complaints, we can't express it well."

It was reported that they had a meeting with each other after the DBSK dispute became a controversy.

Music producers state "they don't even know the situations"

Another artist under SM Entertainment stated with affliction, "DBSK sunbae's dispute is bitter to watch because it seems it our future is being shown. Trurthfully, there are too many things on my mind that I can't concentrate when I'm performing on stage or doing other broadcasting schedules."

For one group of singers under an entertainment company, although earning distributions are clear and there is strong confidence between the company, they signed a contract period for almost 10 years and are anxious that this might spark something in their way.

Jang Yoon jung and Park Hyun Bin also signed 10 year contract with their company and although Jewelry members have different contracts, members have been working under the same company for over 8 years. They stated that the problem is mutual distrust, not the contract period.

As the long period contracts are arising as a problem, music industry producers respond that they don't even know what the situation is like. They stated that as singers debut younger and younger, it is becoming normal to start training elementary school kids and if companies continued to meet the demands of its artists, the company would not be able to survive.

One entertainment company president stated, "I am paying attention to how the provisional disposition will be ruled. I feel like singers do not consider the company's perspective and are only considering these situations once they have become famous. I hope this will be an opportunity to eliminate troubles between singers and companies."


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Date: 2009-08-05 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbalurbal.livejournal.com
they are still paying for it. just not out of pocket
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Date: 2009-08-05 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartomntd.livejournal.com
not hurting for money, probably, but actually having the money you'd think they have. no not at all.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanny-w.livejournal.com
Yeah mte.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sya-fhya.livejournal.com
Another artist under SM Entertainment stated with affliction, "DBSK sunbae's dispute is bitter to watch because it seems it our future is being shown. Trurthfully, there are too many things on my mind that I can't concentrate when I'm performing on stage or doing other broadcasting schedules."

:'(

Date: 2009-08-05 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] downpour.livejournal.com
my first thought was someone from shinee saying this rofl.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanny-w.livejournal.com
No one should sign a contract for that long. It should be up for renewal every few years. Not more than a freaking decade. Of course some little kid is going to think a longer contract is better though.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
Heechul's mother told him to sign the contract even if it was for 50 years lmao.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuekey.livejournal.com
Whatever happens with DBSK will probably cause some kind of ripple effect on the other groups. I just hope they end the disputes peacefully and agree on something that will appease both sides. :(

Date: 2009-08-05 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cakedomination.livejournal.com
if companies continued to meet the demands of its artists, the company would not be able to survive

Well if meeting the demands of the artists means giving them their pay due, I'd rather the company not survive plus more people would be spared of such unreasonable contracts anyway.

D: TRAINING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS, WHAT.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanny-w.livejournal.com
It seems the company really only cares about itself. For the company to be healthy they need to take care of their employees.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readyforever.livejournal.com
tl;dr - as much shit as the boys are stirring up for speaking up (and out) against SME, i'm damn proud that they're doing so.

it's the first step towards better working conditions (and relations) for everyone, not just them. ♥

Date: 2009-08-05 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
IA. I'm very proud of them too. They are behaving like freakin Gandhi.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirotic39.livejournal.com
Well, lets hope they make it. Not only for DBSK, but also for the others.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baeraki.livejournal.com
These contracts = DNW

I can't imagine how much each member of Suju gets after dividing the pay by 13. These people sacrifice their health and family time and barely see any money. SMH @ SM. A mess.

Date: 2009-08-05 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mihsayam.livejournal.com
Don't they get bonuses for individual work though?

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edgirl-12.livejournal.com
Every time i see an SM artist now i worry about whether they're being payed fairly now. Especially SHINee as they've worked so hard recently.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jaesus.livejournal.com
It's doubtful. :\

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-zucchini.livejournal.com
That's all fucked up. :|
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Date: 2009-08-05 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraenchanted.livejournal.com
I think it's inevitable. There's 13 of them, they probably got a shittier deal than DBSK.

I don't want to see more trouble, but I suppose if the only way for SM to listen is by SNSD/SJ/Shinee speaking up, then I guess it's good. But whatever. I hope there's a good ending in all this.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jaesus.livejournal.com
And that's bullshit about producers — Oh... They haven't really experienced it. Now that I understand, but for crying out loud.

Sigh. I just want this shit to blow over. Get their contract fixed and have it all over. Right now, please. ._.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartomntd.livejournal.com
I think I love jaesuchun a bit more. At least they are taking a stand against something like this rather than sit back and be driven to the brink because of a company's greed.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neptunepirate.livejournal.com
D: I really hope the DBSK boys win and it means (positive) changes for other artists as well.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brailleun.livejournal.com
This was nice way to wake up *yawns*.

But I'm some how glad that DBSK came forward with this, because if somebody can clean entertaiment indunstry a bit it's them. They have enough power to do it :/.

Date: 2009-08-05 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boojaena.livejournal.com
They have enough power to do it :/

THIS

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraenchanted.livejournal.com
I wonder who Super Junior member they spoke with. Eeteuk, Kangin? I'm not surprised.

This is just getting bigger and bigger. Change is coming. :/

Date: 2009-08-05 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meliffic.livejournal.com
Change is coming.

Uhm...Vote Judge wisely.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heesica.livejournal.com
I'm just in general very upset by the whole situation, and I'm surprised the fans haven't done anything yet.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memoryofsunday.livejournal.com
Ikr? It's shocking, really. Leeteuk mentions that thing with that ice skater lady or whatever that he totally made up about her not adding him back on some online thing and fans go absolutely CRAZY. 3/5 of DBSK file a lawsuit against the company and it seems like everyone's just sitting back and watching the show. Idgi. :P

I'd like to see some serious fan action going on, but my instincts tell me it would have a negative affect on the case. And, if I'm being completely honest here, it seems like it's kiiind of in DBSK's/the entertainers' favor at this point. Everyone's calling BS on SM at this point, right?

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memoryofsunday.livejournal.com
Music producers state "they don't even know the situations"
And I'm so sure they know the situation of their artists. Actually, it's more like, ask DBSK, Super Junior, SHINee, or whoever the hell else about the situation, and I think they're bound to know it pretty damn well considering they've been suffering from it for the past however many years. All that statement says is "Oh, bawwww, don't make us share the money they're making." Butthurt producers because their ability to slave drive is starting to waver. That's how I see it.

Really, I do hope that this becomes some kind of revolution. However, I really can't stand that they're focusing so much on the length of the contract and the distribution of profits and, really, so little on the welfare of the artists while they're UNDER said contracts. Seems to me like they're kind of missing one of the absolute most important points here. :/

tl;dr WTF is happening to the world?

Date: 2009-08-05 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldwillow-brook.livejournal.com
When the whole thing with DBSK first started I said its going to be SM's biggest fear that the other SM trainees and kids are going to realize what shit they've gotten themselves into, and its going to scare the SHIT out of LSM.

I think if SNSD and SJ start thinking about it more, and being out right and kind of stating that the shit SM does is bullshit, it'll not only effect the way that people stop supporting SM and stop supporting the bullshit ways and it will definitely affect the way trainess are brought in. International auditions and shit like that are going to be effected in a way that it might really you know hurt SM.

I'm really thinking at this point, SM needs to just agree with DBSK because regardless of what DBSK has NOT paid for, all the money that you ARE using is from them. Their your biggest money makers. If you were smart you would adjust it accordingly.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartomntd.livejournal.com
imagine if all of SM artists rebelled against the company. Well BoA wouldn't she's a freaking shareholder so that's her money she's messing with but if SuJu, SNSD, and SHINee were to all bring a lawsuit, this would be so damn epic.

Date: 2009-08-05 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraenchanted.livejournal.com
And then they'd bring all their fans to the streets. That would get huge media coverage and SM would freak out.

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
LSM better be running for his life. Cassies, Elfs and SONES (and possibly the SHINee fans too, what the hell are they called anyway) together? Hohohoho lmao.
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Date: 2009-08-05 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memoryofsunday.livejournal.com
Are they SHINee World still? Shawol? The name was always a little lame. XD

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Date: 2009-08-05 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leap4detonation.livejournal.com
I hope more SM artists speak up during this trial. It'll create a stronger case for the DBSK boys.
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