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The problem is not how much was given, but how the income was divided… And can only be solved if SM reveals TVXQ’s exact income

Amidst the chaos that has ensued after TVXQ members YoungWoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun and Xiah Junsu filed a lawsuit against their agency, the rift between the two sides is getting deeper as SM Entertainment revealed it’s rebuttal.



There is a lot of talk about SM’s official statement and many are skeptical about SM’s statement that the amount given to TVXQ was ‘a substantial income division.’

On the 3rd, SM released that, “TVXQ, till now (July 2009), have received 11 billion Won (9.2 billion Won given during the activities+1.77 billion Won given beforehand) and have also been given luxury foreign cars (bonuses that don’t have any connection to the contract).” SM also said that, “The other side has focused solely on album sales even though TVXQ receive their fair share through events, CFs and other performances.”

However, since the exact amount of TVXQ’s income till now has not been revealed by SME, SME’s statement has been met with skepticism and doubt.

Fans stated, “Even if SM did give TVXQ 11 billion Won, that is still less than 400 million Won per person each year,” and “It is not plausible to say that this is enough when the group’s immense popularity or influence is calculated,” to show their reluctance to accept SM’s statement.

In fact, TVXQ’s album sales started off with their debut single ‘HUG’ selling around 195K copies and after eight singles and four albums, they have sold a total of 2.68 million copies in Korea alone.

In Japan, they have released 27 singles and four albums and sold a total of 2.34 million copies. According to the Japanese Record Committee, eight albums, ‘Summer Dream’, ‘T’, ‘Beautiful You/Thousand Year Love Song’, ‘Why Did I come to like you? (Doushite)’, ‘Spell-MIROTIC-’, ‘Survivor’, ‘Bolero’, and ‘Share the World’ have received the Gold Ranking (100K or more) and ‘The Secret Code’ has received the Platinum Ranking (250K or more).



Even when China, Thailand and Hong Kong is not considered, TVXQ has sold more than 5 million copies in Korea and Japan alone. Oricon Magazine, the official album chart for Japan, stated that in the first half of this year, TVXQ took eighth place in total album sales that earned them a total of 2.5 billion Yen (approximately 33 billion Won).

TVXQ’s concerts also boast the best ticketing power and the income their live concerts bring in is probably a massive amount. Around 390K people attended TVXQ’s Asia Tours, 530K attended their Japanese Tours and 120K attended their showcases. In their concerts alone, they attracted over 1 million fans around the world.

One fan wrote on their blog, “The most recent concert was their Japan Tour that ended at the Tokyo Dome which attracted 300K people. Even when using the average seat cost of 8000 yen (1 yen=1300 Won), that is still 2.4 billion Yen, in Won that would be 31.2 billion Won.“

They also stated, “This is only taking the ticket fee into consideration. When you add up all the souvenirs sold during the concert and add this to the ticket cost, they must have earned at least 50 billion won.“

After the Tokyo Dome concert, many Japanese news agencies estimated that, “If you add up all the money TVXQ earns in China, Southern Eastern countries, Korea, etc, TVXQ must earn around 100 billion Won every year.”

There are other sources of income such as musical income sources of streaming, background music for homepages, downloads and ringtones, and commercials, performances, DVDs and photobooks, as well as a cartoon character venture, the amount that TVXQ has earned till now is almost out of this world. That is why SM’s statement regarding money has become an issue.

In reference to SM’s statement that “From their debut till now, we have paid TVXQ 11 billion Won,” many fans are saying that, “It’s not about the actual amount of money given to them, but the percentage of total income given to them,” and “SM is putting forth a large number of 11 billion Won to make it look like they have been giving the members proper treatment pay-wise.”

Fans also stated, “If the agency is so convinced that they are being fair and just, why is it that they aren’t revealing the exact income of TVXQ? There are too many unclear parts in this contract that even the members did not know the contents of.” They also criticized SM Entertainment by stating, “Because of SM’s poor attempts at making TVXQ the scapegoat, more questions are arising and they are causing confusion.”



DNW!!!!


Source: [oh my news + DNBN]
Translation credits: jeeelim5@iscreamshinki.net

With the huge income, there must also be huge expenses. Tbh, I want to see their expenditure more than their income lmfao. How much a night to run the Mirotic concert - lights, food, manpower and all. How much it takes to feed Changmin DBSK and their staff. How much a night at Tokyo Dome. How much to record an album. How much for their costumes. That intrigues me more than their income tbh. Honestly though, maybe if they did show their expenses, shit would be cleared up. Conclusion: Your accounts should be transparent.
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Date: 2009-08-04 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyoko-hino.livejournal.com
wow I agree tho, if DBSK got 11 billion Won, I can only imagine how much SM got >< (especially if the 70-90% of the money actually goes to SM like previous claims stated).
._. idk tho, even if they DO pay for all the concerts/food/plane tickets, there r still other issues other than money with SM. Plus I'm still sure they get a huge profit anyways

Date: 2009-08-04 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyoko-hino.livejournal.com
*KOed from the pic*
Min bias? Chun looks scary...

Date: 2009-08-04 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beautifiers.livejournal.com
JUST COME OUT WITH IT ALREADY, SM. JFC.

Also: "It’s not about the actual amount of money given to them, but the percentage of total income given to them,” THIS, so much.

Date: 2009-08-04 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taylorssi.livejournal.com
got to love the fans. this makes me laugh so hard. to have fans go " ya, how much? must be kidding, show us the damn pay stubs!"
smart Cassie's > everything else...

Date: 2009-08-04 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoyah.livejournal.com
It'd be nice to see income + expenditure and all that - not just for big events, but all living expenses and travel, too. Then again, I think I'd feel uncomfortable if all that was revealed about me - there's a matter of privacy. I think it should be brought up in a legal setting, though, so that a judge can make a fair ruling to see if this is... well, fair or not.

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Date: 2009-08-04 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuukihitohira.livejournal.com
Tbh, I want to see their expenditure more than their income
I kind of agree because, yes, I bet they do spend a SHITLOAD on the boys(seeing as they are ALWAYS on a plane somewhere)

...but idk, I feel like if it's released, it'll be another hit to SM somehow, but they'll go and bullshit their way around it again :\

Also, seeing the amount they make in Japan is just RIDICULOUS O_O

Date: 2009-08-04 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuukihitohira.livejournal.com
ALSO, ROFL AT NEW PIC.

And I see someone's Changmin bias showing~ 8D
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Here You Go BB

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hp-eternalglory.livejournal.com
I feel like DBSK is one of the top earners at SME, because of their popularity.
But I hope that this doesn't become a money issue and overshadow the health issue.

is it wrong that i laughed at their outfits in that picture?

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
I was distracted by that picture.
Great pattern O__o.
AGREE with ur statement, so true it's time to show them the numbers and give money if needed. DBSK/TVXQ/..JKLENDCRPY(kidding *wink) don't get butthurt if you end up owing money because of duel country up keep of a boyband.

Date: 2009-08-04 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyoko-hino.livejournal.com
Srry rly random but that icon &hearts *glomps*
>_< I don't like money. it's evil. like SM

totally unrelated though

Date: 2009-08-04 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caughtmedead.livejournal.com


In the midst of all these unrest and chaos, watching this will send us all bawling.

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sincronia.livejournal.com
been bawling over this for the last few days...

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:08 pm (UTC)
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I'll be so glad when this is all done with, no matter the outcome. ~_~

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baeraki.livejournal.com
LOL @ Cassies turning into businesswomen.

Getting all professional and shit XD
Go on wit yo' bad selves ♥

Date: 2009-08-04 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pat-ology.livejournal.com
they have a lawyer and now businesswoman..
I'm waiting for an astronaut

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parkjinyoung.livejournal.com
im enjoying that picture alot LMFAO

Date: 2009-08-04 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-meh.livejournal.com
unf, drooling over junsu's white wifebeater and his sweaty collarbones.

hum...oh, money.
yeah, they should get paid more 8D!

Date: 2009-08-04 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoyah.livejournal.com
su was the best dressed, imo. and yoochun wasn't a total failure. i think the outfit i couldn't stand was changmin's - wth at the white being on top of the plaid

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Date: 2009-08-04 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
I have been trying to ignore all these DBSK posts but...dammit I get so sucked in!

LOL Changmin Y so osm??

Date: 2009-08-04 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaphappyfuck.livejournal.com
because he's buddha

Date: 2009-08-04 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fadeintoyou.livejournal.com
best thing for sm to do is to open up their account books for the judge because as sucky as i am at math...looking at the income of dbsk (according to sm's statement) and the number of albums sold, concerts given, merchandises etc etc........there's a big ass discrepancy.

if there's nothing to hide, show yourself.


Date: 2009-08-04 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pat-ology.livejournal.com
some time ago I've made a macro:

Image (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/dnwy.jpg/)

Date: 2009-08-04 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cloaked.livejournal.com
there was an article posted a while ago that mentioned the production cost of the tokyo dome shows. about ¥ 700 000 000 which equals 7.33600 million U.S. dollars.

just saying since that article is dealing with numbers relating to tokyo dome.

Date: 2009-08-04 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uchihacarol.livejournal.com
yes... it's really hard to know.
one day, i guess, i read about the contract.
80% goes to SM and if this thing is true is really unfair >.<
they do SOOOOOOO much and just have 20% for they?!
at least 60%/40% if SM wanna more money...

Date: 2009-08-04 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] now0anon.livejournal.com
11 billion won? Really?

Image

Though I am also interested in their expenses...

Date: 2009-08-04 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crypticbluerose.livejournal.com
Image (http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/bluerose14/Japan%20and%20Korea/?action=view&current=inkigayopurplelinefeb.gif)

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Date: 2009-08-04 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missatira.livejournal.com
8,967,364.10 is 11 billion won so each member got $1,793,472.80 over the span of 6 years which makes it about $298,912 per year plus cars plus food, travels, and etc paid for. I guess considering they are generating a lot more than that, it is unfair, but I don't think they are bums or anything.

Maybe Sm should take 60% of the profit, and DBSK take 40%...

I think SM is the worst out of all the entertainment companies. It seems like people are always collapsing or just unhappy. You never hear this shit comin from YG or JYP! Maybe cuz Jyp or yg threaten to kill the artist if they complain... haha jk.

btw, why are they TVXQ and DBSK?

Date: 2009-08-04 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartomntd.livejournal.com
TVXQ is their international name. Their name means= God Rising From The East

so TVXQ, DBSK, Tohoshinki all mean the same thing, just in respective languages.

Date: 2009-08-04 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fraash.livejournal.com
i wonder how much of SME's profits from dbsk is used back onto them for further promotion.

Date: 2009-08-04 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relinquere.livejournal.com
Is anyone here a business student? LOL

I honestly wonder who audits SM's company. Huge contracts like that SHOULD be audited for fair treatment.

I know all of you are saying, "Oh the boys' expenditures get paid for." DUH. SM NEED TO PAY those expenses to GENERATE the revenue. What are they going to do? Ask the boys to feed themselves, and pay for their own plane tickets back? Obviously DBSK would object... therefore, no revenue would be generated. The boys obviously didn't want to be in Japan the first place (like back in 2005 when they suffered from depression). No one wants to spend a couple hours a week just traveling on a plane.

If anything, I don't think they should just be looking at like CD revenues and junk. But overall net profit.

Here bb

Date: 2009-08-04 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartomntd.livejournal.com
I broke it down in this comment.

http://community.livejournal.com/omonatheydidnt/1229102.html?thread=98806574#t98806574

Re: Here bb

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Date: 2009-08-04 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unsospiro.livejournal.com
I doubt they'll throw away their careers because of this; it'll work out.
They're popular as fuck in Japan right now anyways.

Date: 2009-08-04 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kireny.livejournal.com
making Avex a shit ton of money too. I dont see Avex giving that shit up considering their already talking about 2010 w/Tohoshinki

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Date: 2009-08-04 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sequinstilettos.livejournal.com
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ok, now i srsly want SM to go down.the only group that's prolly doing slightly well is snsd becoz of sunny's connections.

all the boybands have it bad. suju/shinee/dbsk/the trax

Date: 2009-08-04 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaphappyfuck.livejournal.com
lul the trax has always had it bad. at least they stopped with the crappy visual.
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