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SEOUL, South Korea — As hopeful singles at the speed dating event shifted from table to table introducing themselves, Park Chang-won, a 32-year-old firefighter, grew more and more morose.

By the time he reached the last table, Mr. Park, whose dark eyebrows give him a brooding look, was uttering only his name and age. Then he sank into silence.

“It felt awkward from the outset,” Mr. Park said later, as he explained that a lifetime spent around men — at boys’ schools, the military and now as a fireman — had made meeting women harder.

Anywhere else, Mr. Park’s dating woes might have been strictly personal. But in South Korea, fretful about plummeting birthrates but still tied to conservative ideas about matchmaking, solving the difficulties of the lovelorn has become something of a national priority. In perhaps the surest sign of that anxiety, the event he attended was one of dozens of dating parties nationwide sponsored by an unlikely matchmaker, the government.

In a country where arranged courtships are fading into the past, the Ministry of Health and Welfare began promoting the idea of dating parties in 2010. Under the enthusiastic leadership of its minister at the time, Cheon Jae-hee, it held four parties that year that brought together its workers and employees at local corporations — making a splash in the news media. Ms. Cheon officiated at the wedding of the first couple who met at one. Featured in a magazine article before the wedding, the 31-year-old groom-to-be thanked the government profusely and wondered if two children would be enough to meet expectations.

Since then, sponsorship of the parties has shifted mainly to ministry affiliates and local governments, which can win financial rewards for activities that promote marriage and childbirth. The municipal government that threw the party Mr. Park attended has been named a role model by the city of Seoul. One government-financed agency, the Planned Population Federation of Korea, claims a different kind of victory: by hosting parties, it is working to undo its past success when it encouraged vasectomies as a booming South Korea feared being held back by population growth.

Government officials are not the only ones trying to replace the traditional matchmakers that many young people consider increasingly old-fashioned. Corporations, fearing critical shortages of workers in an aging society, have begun ending informal bans against office romances, with some now paying for dating services for their workers. College students have leapt online to set up mass dating events, including a much-publicized flash-mob blind date last winter in downtown Seoul. And entrepreneurs have opened bars where waiters serve as informal go-betweens.

There are online dating services as well, but many young Koreans remain uncomfortable searching for a partner on their own. Most prefer to rely on the companies to take their information and make the match for them.

So far, though, the results of these efforts have been mixed. Korean society is organized around group affiliations — hometown ties and school and corporate friendships — so meeting a potential spouse without formal introductions to merit family approval has proved difficult, even for those enamored with the concept.

“I usually date girls I get set up with by my friends, but tonight I came to this party to find someone naturally,” said Yang Sung-mo, 29, who tucked a dapper purple handkerchief into his blazer pocket to attend a bar event for singles. “Still, I doubt it’s going to work unless I am introduced.”

Until the 1980s, young people relied on matchmakers and family connections to find spouses, sociologists say. With so many people living in ancestral villages, it was easy for parents to find good matches for their children. Among the criteria considered: family status and birth dates checked by fortune tellers for compatibility.

Those practices waned as industrialization started an exodus to South Korean cities. Far from traditional networks, families turned to a growing number of dating services that performed background checks. And young people turned to friends whose role is taken seriously enough that they receive gifts at weddings. (Standard thank you presents include tailored suits and cash.)

But in recent years, urban youth exposed to the West begun to complain that even the less formal blind dates set up by friends were stressful.

“I want to meet someone I feel for,” said Lee Su-seong, 29, who waited nervously with a group of friends at the Blue Ketchup Bar in Seoul, where waiters hand out “Cupid cards” from admirers as an icebreaker.

The catch with such unorthodox approaches, said Hahm In-hee, a professor of sociology at Ewha Womans University, is that society has not been prepared for such a radical change.

“Approaching or socializing with someone you don’t know at all feels very unfamiliar to Koreans,” she said. “It is very awkward to mingle with someone without knowing who the other person’s parents are, where they are from, etc.”

Of all the new approaches now being tried, the flash mob was the most famous failure. About 3,000 young people showed up at sprawling Yoido Plaza, despite frigid temperatures. At 3:24 p.m. their phones rang, signaling that the date hunting could begin, but the crowd suffered a case of mass jitters. (It did not help that the police were dispatched to chaperon the event because parents were afraid of sexual assaults.)

The event fizzled in 10 minutes, though the organizer said that about 100 couples managed to arrange a first date.

The heart of the problem, local officials and others say, is that South Koreans have gotten ahead of themselves. As the country modernizes rapidly, many of its urban youth are chafing not only at arranged courtships but also at dates arranged by friends. Mr. Park avoids matches set up by his family, but says countless blind dates arranged by his friends have too often left him stammering through small talk with women who are not interested in him, or he in them.

Still, he and most other young South Koreans are not yet comfortable with the Western notion of casual dating as a path to finding a spouse, and the idea of approaching a stranger to start of a meaningful relationship sends many into spasms of shyness.

But social mores are slowly shifting. Sociologists say young people are generally more open to premarital sex than past generations were, and with most living at home until they get married, they have found ways to escape parents’ prying eyes, including ducking into love hotels. But those changes do not diminish the need for proper introductions for serious relationships.

The difficulties in meeting potential spouses have exacerbated an increasing tendency among South Koreans to marry late. As young women have gotten better jobs, analysts say, many are loath to give them up to shepherd children through a hypercompetitive education system and care for aging in-laws.

In 2011, the average age of a first marriage for South Korean women hit 29.14, up from 24.8 in 1990; for men it jumped to 31.8 from 27.9 in 1990. The birthrate sunk to 1.15 children per woman, the lowest among the world’s most developed countries.

Young people and researchers say the situation has worsened as South Koreans born into greater wealth have become more materialistic and status conscious.

“Korean women are too picky with all sorts of criteria, including which college the guy goes to, and whether or not he has a car,” said Yu Tae-hyeong, who set up the flash mob. Men, he said, are more concerned with women’s looks.

So far, several young people said, the government matchmaking parties have proved the best mix of old and new. Local officials perform thorough background checks, matchmaker-style, but once everyone is vetted, officials encourage them to mingle freely.

That is little comfort for the hapless Mr. Park from the speed dating party.

In the end, he abandoned all caution when the organizers asked if anyone would publicly say who they most wanted to meet. He pointed to a woman with an infectious grin who he respected for not trying to hide her braces, then knelt to present her with a bouquet provided by the party planners.

She covered her face with her hands and refused to give him her phone number. Later, she and her friends left with a group of young men. Mr. Park was not invited.

“I guess I will continue the introduction thing through friends,” he said later. “But I think praying is the only answer.”


Source.

Long but interesting imo. Also mods, can we get a news/articles tag? Because there is no tag that works with articles like these.
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Date: 2013-08-05 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modestgoddess79.livejournal.com
I was going to post this too, so fast.

so what I got from this article as an Omona member is that I need to befriend someone who know Kim Woo Bin and Lee Jong Suk so that I can be introduced as potential romantic partner

Date: 2013-08-05 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoppedclock321.livejournal.com
Even better, become a hoobae at their modeling agency thing. Flawless way to meet them.

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Date: 2013-08-05 07:12 pm (UTC)
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Poor Korea, not comfortable with casual hook-ups. Hang in there, you'll get the hang of it eventually.

Date: 2013-08-05 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cotxpaxi.livejournal.com
nah they're good on hookups, finding a marriage partner is a completely different thing which is what the article was addressing
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Date: 2013-08-05 07:33 pm (UTC)
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can we have a omona blind dating thingy too?? :3

Date: 2013-08-05 08:22 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-08-05 07:51 pm (UTC)
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“Approaching or socializing with someone you don’t know at all feels very unfamiliar to Koreans,” she said. “It is very awkward to mingle with someone without knowing who the other person’s parents are, where they are from, etc.”

not only Koreans, sorry, here too. At least at the place where I'm growing up in.

“Korean women are too picky with all sorts of criteria, including which college the guy goes to, and whether or not he has a car,”

not really with the woman, but the woman's parents & families. At least at the place where I'm growing up in. LOL

Men, he said, are more concerned with women’s looks."

THIS IS SO TRUE


I understand everything in this article. Since there are still lot of people who think that women should not approach people first (bec it looks slutty), even though there are many others who said, "This is modern era, no one cares about that anymore!!" but tbh I wouldn't know who cares & who dont in the first sight! O_o

I'm working as a freelance illustrator and I'm pretty much dont have ~work mates~ so people like me are having like <10% to get a boyfriend from a community =_=

Date: 2013-08-05 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modestgoddess79.livejournal.com
post college it is really heard to meet new people, for friends or romance

I feel like if you don't meet your future spouse in high school or college you are doomed

Date: 2013-08-05 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokidoki88.livejournal.com
And now you're telling me this?! When I have just graduated?! SHIT!
Which button do I press to restart my life?

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Date: 2013-08-05 08:07 pm (UTC)
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i wonder how this affects the lgbt community.

Date: 2013-08-05 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shineebambi.livejournal.com
honestly from what little ive read, many still get married and raise a family because its what is expected especially women. very few people are officially out

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Date: 2013-08-05 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
super interesting.
at this point, i wish i lived in a culture where family did the set up thing cause i'm tired of looking.

Date: 2013-08-06 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldynchickie.livejournal.com
Try asking you're parents anyways. Lol. Ask if they know of any young man the they think would be a good match for you. Or ask friends if it's too awkward to ask your parents that.

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Date: 2013-08-05 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miyozari.livejournal.com
I could relate to almost all problems mentioned in the article, because they're similar to my parents' home country.

Tbqh I'm not really interested in wasting my youth by looking out for men, I'll just wait till my parents get sick of me after a few years and set me up on dates with potential spouses. LOL
It worked out for my cousins but not always.
In moments like these I'm happy, that my culture still set ups potential relationships.

The birthrate sunk to 1.15 children per woman, the lowest among the world’s most developed countries.

WAT.

“I guess I will continue the introduction thing through friends,” he said later. “But I think praying is the only answer.”

d'awww lemme give you a hug.

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Date: 2013-08-05 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lishalishalisha.livejournal.com
Oh, Mr. Park, it's okay, come here bb ;;
Image (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/lishalishalisha/media/1.gif.html)

Date: 2013-08-05 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixion124.livejournal.com
oh so is this another reason why condoms aren't really promoted in Korea

Date: 2013-08-05 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldynchickie.livejournal.com
It's weird now that I've turned 24 mom being saying more how she needs to marry me off when before she would shush me for having thoughts of dating. She has always said concentrate on school first. Boys are just distractions, lol.

Date: 2013-08-05 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bolingi-aii.livejournal.com
its seems like from 21+ is the time to start getting long term relationships and potential fiances

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From: [identity profile] bolingi-aii.livejournal.com
this article is kinda depressing. I give it a decade and they'll find a nice balance.

OP

Date: 2013-08-05 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
i made a "current events" tag since technically everything is news/articles. well i guess you could say everything is current events. lawl :P
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Date: 2013-08-06 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightframes.livejournal.com
O-week? Is that like orientation?

Firefighters are desirable in the U.S, too. My friend is married to one. I don't think he'd be single for long here.

Date: 2013-08-05 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-noctem.livejournal.com
As someone who really wants to get married and have kids it makes me nervous to think that I may not be able to find *~the one~* I'm the youngest of my friends so I suppose I shouldn't feel so bad that I'm not the only one who isn't in a relationship. The idea of being matchmade and rushing into marriage isn't appealing at all though. I find it really difficult to be completely at ease with someone especially guys so if I'm gonna get married by 30 I'd better start now so I have like a whole decade to get to know them lol.

Date: 2013-08-06 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornios.livejournal.com
lol same
I really think that if I'm not married by 30 then I'll just stay single

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Date: 2013-08-05 10:29 pm (UTC)
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My parents met in their first year of university, so I always sorta assumed that would be the case for me too.

But now the first year of uni is past, i'm single... i'm starting to feel worried lol

Date: 2013-08-05 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shineebambi.livejournal.com
right my parents met in college my friends parents met in college even my two best friends have met well their fiance and long term gonna get married eventually partners and her i am like welp hey guys gonna sit her in my lonely singles corner....... by myself...alone...

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Date: 2013-08-05 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daisukihae.livejournal.com
Dear lord. I'm graduating college next year ;___; no relationships yet. But that's okay. Because all I want to do is travel the rest of my life. I feel like I kind of expected to be single but then again I also want someone? Either way, I'm completely fine with being alone. Or at least I don't mind :P

I also feel like online dating is on the rise? Does anyone do that here?

Date: 2013-08-06 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightframes.livejournal.com
I'm in the U.S. and while I've read about successful online dating stories, the people I personally know who tried it have had really bad experiences. So I refuse to do it, lol.

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Date: 2013-08-05 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toshi830.livejournal.com
It's depressing when you have to attend family events and all your aunts and uncles ask you about having a girlfriend and thinking about giving my parents grand kids.

Like I just graduated and haven't been able to find a job yet, not to mention I am considering a masters. I don't have time for a kid or getting married.
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Date: 2013-08-05 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittycurious.livejournal.com
"are not yet comfortable with the Western notion of casual dating as a path to finding a spouse"

Good. Don't copy the US/other countries that follow the same dating philosophy.
Unless they they mean "casual dating" as in dating one person just to see how it goes and if it leads to marriage, cool, if it doesn't, no big deal.

But, assuming "the west" is the US, the dating culture in the US stipulates "casual dating" as basically dating multiple people at once and then picking the person you become serious with; at least that's the general feeling I've been getting lately. It's such an indecisive style, and I don't want to see anyone try to mimic such a twisted philosophy.

Date: 2013-08-06 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeytheempress.livejournal.com
dating more than one person at a time works for some people. not all, but some. and people should do what works for them.

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Date: 2013-08-06 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moozles.livejournal.com
Everybody keeps commenting about how they're afraid they won't find someone before they graduate - please don't worry! I didn't find someone until I was 25, and we've been together since (I'm 27 now). Don't lose faith :) You have lots of time.

Date: 2013-08-06 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellicoptajuuce.livejournal.com
do you guys think it has something to do with risk taking behavior as in, approaching someone might end in rejection therefore they don't even try or do you think it is just that theyre nervous?

Date: 2013-08-06 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldynchickie.livejournal.com
I also got a degree in psychology and I loved. It's why I'm having such a hard time deciding what I want to do with my life, lol.

Date: 2013-08-06 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaughtermatic.livejournal.com
Fuck I've been fighting to get into psychology for a year I am so damn jealous of you.

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Date: 2013-08-06 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaughtermatic.livejournal.com
Wooow some of these comments here about being worried after college, am I the only one who think marriage before at LEAST 30 seems really unappealing? I have so much shit I want to do before I start splitting my bills and sorting laundry with someone.

Date: 2013-08-06 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittycurious.livejournal.com
You're not alone! I always imagined getting married no sooner than 28. All my childhood friends are currently getting married (We're 22-23) and it's so weird.

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Date: 2013-08-06 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornios.livejournal.com
fuck all the comments about finding your potential life partner during the first of college are making me feel sad... I'm basically halfway through it and there's no boyfriend lololol

But I do take into consideration that my parents married when they were like 27/28 so it's ok I guess...

Date: 2013-08-06 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moozles.livejournal.com
It's becoming more and more of a trend to not settle down until your late 20s early 30s anyway. I wouldn't worry too much, tbh.

You all make me feel so old, haha.

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Date: 2013-08-06 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awsteven.livejournal.com
omg i'm already going to be 21 soon and in my third year of undergrad yet i haven't been in a relationship yet ;_____; well i guess i can't miss what i never had~

Date: 2013-08-06 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorawa.livejournal.com
dw bb! i never had a boyfriend until i met mine a couple months ago and i just turned 22. it'll happen

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