[identity profile] ceecile.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
There have been a rise in businesses claiming to solve all of your bullying/school violence problems for a sum of cash. When even the school and the police can't protect you, parents are desperately turning to these businesses and hiring scary looking men to protect their children.

On a news article about a parent explaining that the bullying against their child grew worse after they reported it to the police, several comments began sprouting suggesting that they hire an odd jobs service to resolve the matter with their own hands.

Curious to see what this was all about, we put up a post requesting for such services and received several contacts. One service explained that they had men with tattoos all over their arms. Once hired, they will wait for their child after school and accompany him home until rumors begin spreading around the school that the child has mobster members in the family.

Another service specializes in handling bullying from teens who are no longer students/have been expelled. They claimed that they will resort to violence but "hit them in a way where it won't show" so that charges can't be pressed. "Who do you think these iljins look up to the most? It's not the police, it's not the prosecutors. They look up to gangsters."

One service claimed that they've completed over 40 requests over the past 2-3 years and have never failed to resolve the matter once. As for the costs, it can run up to $5,000 for a month and around $1,500 to $1,800 for two weeks.

A member of a school violence victims committee said, "I can completely understand why parents would spend that kind of money to hire these services to protect their children. What I'm wondering is why we've let it get to this point and why we are still not doing anything about it."

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1. [+382, -4] I think detective agencies like this are actually doing something good. Students can tell their teachers but they'll hesitate to take any action and you can report it to the police but they'll just visit once and glance around before leaving again. Then the student who reported it to begin with will get beat up even harder. This is the best possible solution among the options students have now. Just hire a few of those men and beat them back up.

2. [+317, -4] This is a great idea. School delinquents need to be beat up just as hard to wake up and face reality. There's the old saying that the only way to fix a crazy dog is to beat it out of him. These kids need to realize that the world is a scary, scary place full of scary people.

3. [+234, -2] I think it's a great idea. The assaulters need to feel the same fear and violence that they make their victims feel so they wake up and realize what they're doing. They don't think the police are worth sh*t but I'm sure they'll be afraid of mobsters.

4. [+44, -0] Never have I been so thankful for mobsters ㅋㅋㅋ Kids that think violence is the end all will shut up once they're faced up against someone stronger.

5. [+38, -1] From personal experience, I know it works. At my school, the iljins messed with a kid who ended up being the son of a mobster. That iljin ended up transferring out of the school even though we were three days before our finals ㅋㅋ

6. [+34, -1] If I were a parent, I don't care how much it would cost. $2,000 or $5,000, I'd hire them in a heartbeat. Imagine the psychological and physical stress you'll be saving your child in exchange for some money.

7. [+26, -3] This article kind of killed the point. Now when kids see other students walking around with mobsters, they're going to accuse them of having hired help ㅋㅋ ㅜㅜ

8. [+22, -1] I don't believe in solving violence with violence, but when the school doesn't do absolutely anything... I feel that it's the only choice some may have and I support that.

9. [+20, -1] Better than the stupid teachers who think this can all be resolved by having the assaulter and the victim come up to the front of the class and shake hands. "You guys are friends now! Now go back to your seats."

10. [+13, -1] As long as kids don't commit suicide... Get revenge in any way possible, even if it's resorting to this.

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Date: 2013-06-02 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
oh my...

I have nothing to say that hasn't been said already but really it's time to do something or at least try something
I mean, bullying, suicide, hiring mobsters... things are really going down here and people, children in particular, are hurt
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Date: 2013-06-02 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angel-9-lives.livejournal.com
"What I'm wondering is why we've let it get to this point and why we are still not doing anything about it."


oh look, someone with a lick of sense.

Date: 2013-06-02 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atelierlune.livejournal.com
It all comes down to this.

Date: 2013-06-02 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiddlywinks103.livejournal.com
Damn, son.

Shit got real, alright. I can't say I might not do the same if I had the means, and the school/police refuse to address it.

Date: 2013-06-02 09:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-06-02 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
reading the part where it said that parents were hiring scary men, I thought of this

(awesome people, too bad they aren't around the world...)

anyways, this is some serious business and people seriously should do something! I don't find it hard to believe that the schools don't do a thing because I was a bully victim from 7 to begging of 11 grade and my school wouldn't do anything. I complained but the teachers wouldn't believe me since the ones who bullied me were perfect students. they thought I was making it up.
the things they did to me are things I don't wish to anyone.
when my mother found out I've been hidding it from her from so many years and the school didn't do anything, my mother went to the principal's office. I still don't know what happened inside to this day. All I know is that in seconds my mother is insulting everyone, saying she's going to sue the fucking bastard that owns the place and in the next day I went to a public school where I was trully happy....
my dad...I have the feeling he threatned the principal...I'm amazed he didn't broke his face.

Date: 2013-06-02 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purekpopology.livejournal.com
That news clip was really sweet. It's that kind of stuff that reminds you not to judge people by the way they look!

I'm glad you got to switch schools eventually!

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Date: 2013-06-02 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] footballfina.livejournal.com
what. the. actual. fuck.

the obvious problem here is that it gets so bad parents have to do this in the first place, but shit man, GANGSTERS?!?!? I feel like this could lead to worse things than the bullying....

Date: 2013-06-02 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heavenlynights.livejournal.com
I can't blame these people at all for involving the mob in protecting their children because, they had no other option. It's so sad how parents can't teach their messed-up kids at least some basic human decency and it's also messed up how some teachers just turn a blind eye to this shit. Like isn't it your job to nourish and care for children and to support their development. Like, if you can't keep the classroom a neutral zone just hand in your degree.

This mob-hiring thing is just a short-term solution to a long-term problem. Like what is stopping these low-life delinquents from hiring the mob as well. Especially, if some of these bullies are rich. It's not going to end well for anybody in that case.

This problem can only go on for so long before the whole system completely collapses on itself.

Date: 2013-06-02 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
"I can completely understand why parents would spend that kind of money to hire these services to protect their children. What I'm wondering is why we've let it get to this point and why we are still not doing anything about it."

mte

Date: 2013-06-02 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwaiirosesilent.livejournal.com
ugh, given the circumstances, the parents did the most they could. but still, the problem should've stopped way before it got to this point. sometimes I feel Korean culture prioritizes the wrong things...

Date: 2013-06-02 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornios.livejournal.com
that is intense...
this reminds me of how I'm watching monstar and there's this guy who's bullied and NO ONE says anything, is it really like that? I've never dealt with bullying.

Date: 2013-06-02 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-allure.livejournal.com
that's how it is half the time. you're basically ostracized from everyone more than getting picked on. no one talks to you cause they can get excluded too. that's why it was such a big deal with the twitter thing in the first place with t-ara.
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Date: 2013-06-02 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
Sometimes extreme measures are needed. My country has also bullying problem and I bet some parents would use this method if it was possible. I'm btw truly thankful to my parents and big brother for teaching me how to be fucking vicious towards anyone who tries to bully me, 'cause teachers seem to be really powerless here. Like on one year when my best friend was placed on different class than me she was bullied (and she didn't let me either do anything for it) so much that she started skipping school and her teacher knew about bullying but didn't do anything even when it was done right in front of her eyes.

Date: 2013-06-02 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
if the police or school can't do anything, I wouldn't just sit and wait for change either, I'd do something and apparently they've found gangster-thing is one method that works..

honestly, change won't happen until the schools take full action. obviously the parents aren't useful, they must know and leave it or don't know anything since bullying can be by whole class. lol I was 'bullied' by a teacher but yeah
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Date: 2013-06-02 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukahoo.livejournal.com
I don't understand what is going on over there. Yes bullying happens around the world but the news out of Korea are seriously beyond. Parents begging and pleading for the bullies to leave their children alone? Paying gangsters to trail their own child? It should be game over the moment the parents even hear about it. Can't they talk to the bullies' parents and make them take responsibility? In a culture seemingly so preoccupied by pride and appearances you would think having a delinquent and a bully for a child to be a huge societal faux pas.

Date: 2013-06-03 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cairistiona.livejournal.com
I think an issue may be that parents never want to believe their child is a delinquent. The parent would have to prove the other child bullied their child, and a loving parent would want to protect their delinquent child by saying it clearly isn't their fault. So nothing would happen except fighting parents trying to prove their child is right.

It's the same thing over here. Parents can't prove which child did it.

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Date: 2013-06-02 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asth77.livejournal.com
I would def choose option #1

Date: 2013-06-02 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atelierlune.livejournal.com
It continued to mystify me that neither my nation nor the Japanese nor the Koreans can definitively declare that socially, mentally and physically torturing someone is wrong. The school district in my own state can't seem to pass legislation describing what bulling is and why it is wrong because apparently calling a gay person an abomination in the eyes of the Lord is a free speech issue.

I wish I could at least tell my school district that they have already failed too many children and their sole hope of salvation is to keep other kids from being driven to suicide. Or maybe the next time I drive past my school I'll see thug-types waiting by the door to take kids home.

Date: 2013-06-03 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfdressedliar.livejournal.com
"The school district in my own state can't seem to pass legislation describing what bulling is"

This is what I find really annoying. We call it bullying because it's happening in schools (not only schools) but bullying is just harassment/abuse. Unless they start calling it what it actually is they won't be able to do anything.

Date: 2013-06-02 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
There's the old saying that the only way to fix a crazy dog is to beat it out of him.

WHO SAID????

Date: 2013-06-02 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryukokoro-oppa.livejournal.com
It's not exactly the same but there is a saying where I live. 'Who don't learn will feel.'

Basically if someone has been told time and time again not to do something and they continuously do it; then they get what's coming for them. Which is usually a serious beating from the parent because the child clearly did something they were told not to do.

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Date: 2013-06-02 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Can't blame them. The police won't do anything because the parents claim their bastard children's futures will be ruined. Even though the psychos have been known to bury people in the ground. If someone was doing this to my kid and school didn't do anything to solve the problem then what else can you do.

Date: 2013-06-02 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jia-zhang.livejournal.com
Wow. The bad parenting all around is atrocious. Do people like not know how to raise kids anymore? There are plenty of freaking books around. Why does no one actually stand up and solve the root of the issue? I'm sure the bullies are facing as many problems as the victims. It's a vicious circle.

As someone who was bullied and sexually harassed from fourth to seventh grade, the one thing I learned is not to let yourself become a victim. The moment you do, you become so small you'll never find the courage to fight back. And that's what the bullied need to learn to do--fight back. No matter what it may be, doesn't matter how, but you need to. Sometimes it is the only way to return things to normal.

Date: 2013-06-02 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
Do people like not know how to raise kids anymore?
what do you expect from a generation of parents that they rather pay complete strangers, without checking referances, to take care of their child for a couple of hours so they can go out at night than ask the grandparents if they can do it.
and that allows kids to cry in the middle of a store because the parent won't give him a freaking iPhone
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Date: 2013-06-02 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysblack.livejournal.com
ngl the idea of paying scary men to pick up the kids is pretty smart.
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Date: 2013-06-03 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maffinoyobiai.livejournal.com
This is why I went to online school! I was bullied a lot of a kid due to my acne and braces. Kids my age (I'm 17) are all so similar with their brand name crap and iphones, I can't get along with them anymore. I hope online schooling is available for kids who want it in SK.

Date: 2013-06-03 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aya-sama3000.livejournal.com
what if the bully decides to pretend to be the one being bullied to hire a gangster to target their victim?

i can see something like this happening ._.

Date: 2013-06-03 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 45s.livejournal.com
Real life as an onion article :-/

Date: 2013-06-03 02:38 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-06-03 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weerainbow.livejournal.com
It's shocking to know that it's got to the point where this is what parents are resorting to, and so sad. There could be so much done if only people cared enough to work at it :(

Date: 2013-06-03 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 10135.livejournal.com
It's really upsetting that some families have to resort to this. I understand where they are coming from, though.
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