[identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
So TS just went ahead and (fake) tattooed a jewish slur on Jongup's hand (in russian)
Cause checking and looking for translation is just so hard...



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Date: 2016-11-07 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modestgoddess79.livejournal.com
WTF, who thought this was acceptable?!

Date: 2016-11-07 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
yikes
yikes
YIKES

Srsly fucked up and this is why one should research the tattoos they are going to get real or fake.

Date: 2016-11-07 11:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-11-07 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
that one russian fan over on asianjunkie who's writing a thesis on how ITS NOT ANTISEMETIC was keeping me entertained all through my lunch break.

apparently the stylists just pulled it from an encylopedia of russian tattoos ... i wanna look at that book tbh

Date: 2016-11-07 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
something must have been in the water yesterday to have so many simultaneous fuck ups. even a simple google search brings up pics of hitler and nazi imagery like i don't know how people are comfortable with using foreign languages for aesthetic without fully knowing what it means. OR they knew the meaning well enough and thought it would look good in the mv (which i didn't watch but heard the general plot of)

Date: 2016-11-07 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blck-ink.livejournal.com
what kind of dumbass fuckery is this? like how difficult is it to research its meaning?

Date: 2016-11-07 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
'apparently the stylists just pulled it from an encylopedia of russian tattoos' wait so you mean there could be real people walking around with this tattoo? yikes

Date: 2016-11-07 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmarques.livejournal.com
It's not a possibility, it's a guarantee. Neo Nazis have no shame if they can get away with it.

Date: 2016-11-07 11:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-11-07 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
oh definitely.

https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Criminal-Tattoo-Encyclopaedia-I/dp/0955862078
seems pretty interesting. it's put together by a soviet prison guard who started cataloging the tattoos he was seeing.

Date: 2016-11-07 11:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-11-07 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
Oh christ, I was thinking more 'here are some generic Russian language tattoos for people to look at in a country where people don't speak Russian' a la bad Japanese tattoos, I'd completely forgotten about the existence of Neo Nazis and the like. Of course they would. I have no words.

Date: 2016-11-07 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com
Image

Why was this allowed to happen? All in the name of having some cool~ edgey~ fake tattoos?
Edited Date: 2016-11-08 12:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-11-07 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
i just googled russian tattoo encyclopaedia and there are a few books on russian criminal tattoos so there's a chance they could have but..... you might wanna check wtf u're putting on yourself bc these things have meaning lol


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Date: 2016-11-07 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
Is this the one they actually used?

Date: 2016-11-07 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
Yeah, that doesn't look like it might have some kind of fascist/racist meaning at all. /s

Date: 2016-11-07 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
idk, someone just commented on asianjunkie that they own the encyclopedia and this exact tattoo is in it. idk what book they mean since that particular one has 3 volumes and i'm sure there's other russian criminal tattoo books in existence.

Date: 2016-11-07 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buckleyourboots.livejournal.com
Ffs, how difficult is a 30 second internet search for a translation when using a different language??? Google translate comes straight up with the meaning, and even a copy paste search of the Russian brings up a shit ton of hateful imagery. So easily avoidable.

Date: 2016-11-08 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightframes.livejournal.com
Oh hell no.

Date: 2016-11-08 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaequeeragenda.livejournal.com
woahhhhhhhhhhh

Date: 2016-11-08 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
yeah the funny thing is, if they did pull it from a book ... then it tells them exactly what it means!
i can't really think of any way to stumble across a drawing like that where it lacks context. even if it was just a picture of a dude ... like, anyone with any sense would know that tattoos in prisons probably have unsavory meanings behind them. it's astounding that the stylist (? or whomever) didn't think for like 3 seconds.

Date: 2016-11-08 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
I just find it hard to get my head around 'oh yeah this book of Russian criminal [CRIMINAL] tattoos will totally be full of designs safe to put on our idols and there will definitely be no offensive content that no Russian speakers will pick up on!'. The level of lack of judgement is incredible. I hope TS get some serious flack for this.

Date: 2016-11-08 12:11 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-11-08 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
lmao ikr. it would take thinking for just a second to realize it wasn't a good idea.

Date: 2016-11-08 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmmalvina.livejournal.com
translation is accurate
i've never even heard this phrase before, and i'm russian, wtf?! though i'm not a criminal either
why would he want a russian tattoo anyway
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