sm to respect the decision of shinee members regarding upcoming dome concerts in japan

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

SHINee Japanese homepage announcment says the status of SHINee’s ‘'SHINee WORLD THE BEST 2018~FROM NOW ON~’ concerts in February will be determined after discussions with the members and the staff.https://t.co/SxdobpmECN pic.twitter.com/uPmyjGlDnJ

— mes #TeamPinky (@OH_mes) December 24, 2017

for those unaware: shinee is slated to hold a small series of dome concerts in february. the concerts were set up in a way to visibly celebrate their past five tours and albums in japan, and possibly serve as their final dome concerts before onew's enlistment. shinee world japan, their japanese fan club, released a similar statement late on the 23rd and this seemed to be the follow up by sm. speculation is that the statement was released because registration for fan club lottery ticketing was meant to come to a close yesterday.

source(s): oh_mes (via naver)

this one is ... rough and i have some feelings on it that i'll save to post in an actual comment.

Comments

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

at this point idk how to feel about shinee future without jjong

i was actually preparing myself to see shinee taking turns to go to army one by one just like suju did for the past 6-7 years, but i guess that wont work now

i would understand even if members dont know what to do or how to go on ....

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it just seems like it would be bad for everyone, emotionally.

EDIT: And they need to not rush this decision, like they need to take their time because with emotions being so raw what they want to do today might not be what they want to do a week from now or in February.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

it's not bad to say. everyone has been thinking it. like i know we're all went through this already but: regardless of what he did back in august the backlash from it obviously... hit him hard. i'm guessing a combination of anxiety, guilt and stress on top of the depression we already know he's struggled with. i figure he's seen a lot being said about him in the last months (some comments going as far as wishing death on him and other, in the words of my friend who knows k-shawols, being "too reprehensible to repeat in english"). add on the grief with jonghyun probably with the stress revolving around the future of the group and probably stress in relation to his impending enlistment and, yeah.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

i wish i could say i was making it up but nope. i mentioned this below but: i have a really good friend who used to be a translator and who has a lot of k-shawol friends and she told me they never stopped. not for jonghyun, not to let him grieve. some are getting worse. there was a comment on the naver article about his message to jonghyun that said something like: "do not act like you don't know what to do" and i was like: what the fuck is that supposed to mean? and she told me it means "what you think it means" and that there's worse out there.

it's just tasteless and disgusting. the scandal and jonghyun's passing do not ... overlap at all so the fact that some people are trying to use it as a way to guilt jinki even further is awful.

[mylovebelt.livejournal.com]

i'll support whatever they decide to do. if they want move forward with the concert, if they decide to go hiatus, if they move to a remote island and leave the industry. i want them to put themselves first. as a fan they don't owe me anything. the only thing i ask from them is to take care of themselves. the pain and loss they must feel right now, i can't imagine.

whatever choice they decide is going to be painful. everything about the group is based on them being five. going through and doing concerts in feb seems too soon. they'd have to start making decisions on how even go forward with that. and that's not something i want them to do right now. that's not something they could even try to wrap their heads around. they're still mourning. being in front of fans and trying to keep a brave face or try to put on a show when someone that used to sing with you or stand next to you is gone... is rough to imagine as a fan. and if they decide to go on hiatus, while i think on a personal level it'll be easier. at large, shinee has always been their priority and such a big part of their lives and they love the group and each other so much. they've always put the group first and they've always talked about being together for as long as they can. i remember reading an interview or idr where but it was either key or jonghyun that talked about how when they are discussing things about the group they make sure to put the group first so their personal relationships and feelings don't get in the way over the future of the group. like it's such a big part of their life and has been for ten years.

i just want them to take all the time they need and surround themselves with each other and their loved ones.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

exactly. someone else said this in here but their choreo is very ... centric on five, and not even in the way that's easy to work around. you need five people to do the propeller move in everybody, you need five for the star move in get the treasure. jonghyun is the center part of that arm lifting move in sherlock and he's the one carried at the start of married to the music. sure, you can get a back up dancer to cover and they've done that in the past but it's always been because one of the members had an overlapping schedule, not because one died. sigh.

[tree-star123.livejournal.com]

jonghyun is such a big part of the group .... :/
i support them w/ any decision they make (on their terms).

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

Do people not understand that attacking Onew now isn't going to change anything

I was definitely one of the people who wanted him to sit out the next comeback and go to the military, but attacking him on social media has nothing to do with respect to the victim of the incident, they're just hiding behind their screen names being malicious.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

yeah. like i understand if people aren't comfortable with him now and i'd never belittle their feelings on what happened but there's a difference between being critical and bullying / being malicious and there's a lot of people (knetz, antis, akgaes, trolls) who've crossed that line in korea.

[rennehollic.livejournal.com]

i honestly don't know how to feel all about this. Part of me wants them to just do things for themselves, rest and do something therapeutic for themselves. Fans will understand, and I hope they don't feel preassure at all to make concerts just because they have to (looking at you SM). If they don't want to, if they don't feel ready yet since February is too soon, they don't have to. If they have to stay at home, looking up the sky, that's what they should do.
But part of me will always want more SHINee. They were and will always be the band I listened to when I was having a bad day, when I was having the happiest day. I went through college and bad relationships with people and myself with SHINee, so I'm being selfish and don't want them to stop...but without Jonghyun...he was such a staple for the band...
idk, I'm all over the place.
I didn't cry when I read the news, I didn't cry when it was announced how it happened, I didn't cry when I saw the instagram posts. But, as soon I saw Key, I broke down. I cried myself to sleep and a huge pain in my chest started.

I probably shouldn't be talking about this, but it brought me bad feelings back, so I just wanted to let it out....I hope I didn't bother anyone

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

that is...infuriating isn't even a word that captures what it is that that is. I can only hope that whichever netizens are saying that are being down voted to hell and back.

tbqh when my friend texted me on Monday morning telling me one of SHINee had died of suicide, my mind immediately went to Onew, given the scandal + his history of depression + netizens' commentary. I can't actually believe those people, people who want members to kill themselves, are shawols or even decent human beings in any way, shape or form. And you're absolutely right that these two events have nothing to do with each other. I don't think SM is prohibiting their idols from getting mental health assistance, and in fact think that Jonghyun showed us pretty concrete evidence that it was actively being made accessible to them (although unfortunately his specific doctor was a fucking quack). I hope they ramp that up one step further and insist that Onew gets some + any counseling he might need re: substance abuse, especially in the wake of this, and that he's armed with the tools he needs to ignore any idiots voicing their shit opinions anonymously from some PC Bang somewhere.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

another quick comment but ... nothing can be ideal, i guess. if i had my way with it it'd be done to make everything the most comfortable for the members but who knows what they really want? and none of us can tell them what they can and can't do, i guess. i can't lie that the idea of them going on without jonghyun breaks my heart but the thought of not having them as a group anymore makes me anxious as well. honestly the last week has been awful for me. i'm feeling better every day but i still feel this hollow in my chest at least once daily and i cry at ... everything, lol.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

It's just an excuse. People who always hated him now have an "excuse" to let lose, regardless that he's probably going through some of the worst pain he's ever felt. He's a person.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

You're not bothering anyone. <3 We've all been sharing our feelings throughout these posts.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

iawtc

I am and always have been an Onew stan, but I also was critical of him in regards to that scandal, and I think there is a productive way to voice disagreement with people's actions that, like you said, respect the victim of the incident and put the onus on the individual who committed the wrongdoing (accidentally or otherwise) to be the agent of change.

Whatever it is that these trolls are trying to achieve isn't borne of trying to change misogyny in Korea, or trying to encourage Onew into some kind of substance abuse program. It's pure maliciousness that comes from something really disgusting that's more deep seeded than dislike of a particular idol.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

seconding that you're not bothering anyone. We're all processing this stuff and I think a lot of us have very similar feelings.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

Girl, similarly to what we've all being saying about SHINee here...I hope you know you're also allowed to take time for yourself. The amount you've been reblogging stuff is incredible and fyjjong has become a beautiful memorial. I just hope it's for your own sake and not for the greater sake of fans. <3

[rivains.livejournal.com]

i think the crux of this is that is should be what THEY want to do and although part of me is worrying for them if they continue with their concerts or dreading new releases without jonghyun i ultimately feel it is not my place as a fan, or sm's, or anyone's, really. only theirs.

selfishly i hope they find the strength to maybe release jonghyun's last solo release and the songs he made for shinee but at the end of the day, i hope they don't do anything because they feel the fans would want it. ultimately their desires go first and what they actively need to do in order to mourn and move on.

[yejun.livejournal.com]

I personally wish they wouldn't do concerts yet.. Like others have said Jjong is such a big part of the group and like this isn't one person sitting out 'cuz of injury or smth this is what SHINee will be from now on (if they continue)...
I feel like solo work and the members all going into the army when it suits them would be... the easiest to accept? I know it's not about me but Jjong was my bias and obv they loved him more than I ever could but IDK if how I'd feel if they went went "straight on" to promoting as 4... ugh I'm such a mess...

But as long as it is THEIR (the members, not staff or SM or whoever) decision I WILL support them.

[rennehollic.livejournal.com]

all of this brought back feelings the place i was 3 years ago. I was so unhappy, I was in a very, extremely toxic relationship that I wanted to just disappear.
I hated myself, and the person I was with made me feel like I had to hate myself even more. That my parents were better off without me and that I was the one that was making him unhappy. He made me feel ugly, weak...and honestly, if it wasn't for SHINee, who for just a couple of minutes allowed me to forget about everything, I wouldn't be here today, feeling healthy and without a person like that in my life

[rennehollic.livejournal.com]

thank you. I hit me extremely hard, but later than some people. It just brought me back when I was in my extremely dark place,

[theharleyquinn.livejournal.com]

the timing is honestly awful. i think everyone has basically captured my feelings in their comments, but i just hate that the domes now have this deterministic role in how they decide to grieve jonghyun and move on. in a situation like this, they can't get a fifth person to be the backup dancer - it would be too upsetting in its implications. like it was said above, that's done when someone is injured. not for this.

they will do what they feel they have to do, but i hope their decision is in line with how they want to grieve and honor him and not what they feel obligated to do for fans. i'll support them regardless but february is just so soon and if they decide to do it, it's not like they'll have the next few months off. they'll have to rehearse, do stage blocking, potentially re-recording (?), etc. to prepare and that's just a daily suckerpunch of him being gone in a way that's emotionally and physically exhausting. it's their choice to make, and i do see both sides of it. i just feel bad that they're in this position at all so soon. it would be different if these concerts were in the summer or later.

all of this news has just made me sadder than i already was. everything is moving so fast.

[nebulosa8.livejournal.com]

Like everyone else is saying, a concert that soon would probably be too much to handle, both emotionally and logistics-wise... tbh I feel like they might want to do one last concert together in Jonghyun's memory, but other than that I don't really see them doing concerts or activities as SHINee anymore (except maybe short performances once in a while e.g. at year end's ceremonies). Also, 2018 was going to be OT5's last year (in a while) anyway as the members will start enlisting one after another...
My shawol heart is hurting so much as I write this but through the years they made it clear that SHINee is not SHINee if they're not 5... if I have to be honest I wish they'd go on as a group, part of why I love them so much is their teamwork and bond and their precious little interactions, and to see them disband/completely drop group activities would be like bidding farewell to part of my youth. But of course this is something only the 4 of them (hopefully) get to decide, right now it seems unlikely to me but I'm not excluding they might be able to pull off a concert or even a comeback if they feel like they can make it work...

[psharp10.livejournal.com]

right? even beginning to tackle the choreography and vocals issue would be so exhausting and draining, i want them to have time to really think through all this and take care of themselves first.

also i didn't get to reply in the other post because i took a break from omona, but i'm glad and proud that you're trying your best and the fyjjong blog has really been helping me, i've been visiting it a lot even though i've closed my tumblr. i hope you've been taking better care of yourself these days, and just lots of love and hugs for you ♡♡♡

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

I didn't even think about the carry opening of MTTM. That hurts.

And Jonghyun is belting at that part of the song in Sherlock so thinking of someone else standing there is just...